06 January 2003, 17:14
coues8x56R
Hello,
Just a quick question. I have a couple of huundred rounds of this ammo. They are in the stripper clips and original boxes. I am wondering if they are worth anything and if I should shoot them or not? I have the rifle also which I have never fired.
Do any of you know what the equivelant modern round to the 8x56R would be? just courious.
Thank you.
DS
06 January 2003, 17:59
muzzaPresumably this is the 8mm Hungarian Mannlicher round.
The Nobel Industries Sporting Catalogue of 1925 list this cartridge with two loadings - 244 gr metal covered rn bullet;41 gr smokeless powder ; mv of 2034fps ; and a 154 gr metal covered pointed bullet ; 50 gr smokeless powder; mv of 2750fps. They could be ordered in clips of five .
I assume your cartridges to be military Eastern Bloc manufacture , but ballistically they will be similar to the Kynoch 154gr load above .
For comparison an 8mm Mauser ( 7.9 x 57mm ) is listed with 227gr metal covered rn bullet ; 41.5 gr smokeless powder ; mv of 2034 .
Hope that helps answer your question on what is it like . Cant help on what is it worth , have to leave that to guys based in the US who know the market.
07 January 2003, 08:57
muzzaI dont have any need to get into an argument , but my 1925 Nobels Industies catalogue lists and displays a cartridge that is called an 8mm (.315) Mannlicher Rifle , which is the information I posted in response to the original query. It also lists an 8mm Mannlicher - Schonauer cartridge , and the 8mm Mauser whose information I listed for comparison .
The illustrated 8mm Mannlicher cartridge looks remarkably like an 8 x 56R when compared to an actual specimen , and based on that premise , I posted the information in good faith. In the instance that I am incorrect - I apologise .
Perhaps someone else can supply the correct information?
07 January 2003, 10:51
IconoclastBet your ammo has a swastika as part of the headstamp? This round was somewhat scarce up til 5-10 years ago when there was a pile of it brought in from somewhere behind the former Iron Curtain. Seems to bring about $10 a box these days, sometimes more, but it is one of the more plentiful oddball milsurp items at the moment.
07 January 2003, 13:11
couesThank you for all the info. and your help.
Coues
14 January 2003, 09:29
muzzaArguments are better left to the more politically oriented forums on this site , if you can get a word in edgeways between those who seem to have made a career of such pastimes.
I hope to continue to share information with those who request it , without making too big an ass of myself as I did on this occasion.
Thanks for the post , carcano . I fired a Carcano rifle once - kicked worse than a 303 Martini carbine .......