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seeking 6.5x53.5 orig sample

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29 October 2007, 09:41
45 Win Mag
seeking 6.5x53.5 orig sample
any of you got a #12 Deaudetue (sp) your willing to part with?
31 October 2007, 03:15
Cheechako
45

Can you be more specific. Exactly what cartridge are you looking for? There are several 6.5 x 53 cartridges and more than one Daudeteau. I'm afraid I do not know what a #12 is.

Ray


Arizona Mountains
31 October 2007, 06:54
45 Win Mag
Ray, I was informed it was a cartridge used in the St. Dennis remodel. captured mod 71 Mauser,
model of 79 overstamped. These were captured from the German army and coverted in 79 to 6.5X53.5 also refered to as a rook gun cartridge. Some were used in the Uraguaen insurectionists circa 1882. Need more info?
Dan
31 October 2007, 07:19
Cheechako
Dan

That didn't help me a bit. All Greek. Sorry. Confused

Ray


Arizona Mountains
01 November 2007, 09:11
craigster
The cartridge is described here,

http://www.municion.org/Daudeteau/6_5Sr.htm
01 November 2007, 09:59
craigster
quote:
Originally posted by craigster:
The cartridge is described here,

http://www.municion.org/Daudeteau/6_5Sr.htm


The description of the converted rilfe is here,

www.rememuseum.org.uk/arms/rifles/armfrc.htm

The rifles, 1871 Mauser carbines (Weapon No 114) were not captured, they were supplied to Uruguay by Germany. Uruguay subsequently sent some to France for conversion to the Daudeteau round.

The 6.5x53.5 is not a rook rifle cartridge. Rook rifles were British, single shots, usually built on Martini actions. Chamberings were mostly smaller (handgun sized) rimmed, straight walled cartridges suitable for small game and targets. BTW, a "rook" is an Old World bird that resembles the American Crow.
01 November 2007, 19:16
45 Win Mag
Craig Now I didn't realize Uruguay SENT them back to France for rechambering I assumed they were captured weapons distributed by France.
The book also referes to the cartrage being used post war as a rook gun being it was the early single shot I have no idea where the magazine rifles went. France did keep an unknown number as a last ditch defense. Thus I have this one.
01 November 2007, 20:08
craigster
France and Germany were not at war during the time the rifles were in service.
02 November 2007, 07:17
45 Win Mag
Again I stand corrected Craig, You are right! It was during the Franco-Prussian war right?
Well one thing for sure it will shoot circles around that 11mm it started out as. As you can well attest to! moon Yea, the cartridge was used as a stand around rook gun post war all that surplus ammo I'm trying to find ONE of was cheap!
Dan
02 November 2007, 07:59
craigster
Dan,

If you haven't already, check out http://cartridgecollectors.org/. You might find something there.