I'm not so much struggling to type as I am struggling to understand America.

When it did become okay to be proudly racist? It's 2008 and we have citizens running around openly admitting to being racists. As a Caucasian who was raised under the constant mantra "We're all the same," I still struggle with the notion that we're not. But, I live in a world where people are raised in communities and churches that say it's not only okay to designate your differences, but a proud responsibility to be exercised. WTF? As a nation, it would appear we've slipped backward 60 or more years. No progress at all.

I'm appalled at the number of black people who claim they voted for Obama because this was an historic election. Somehow in their ethnocentric thinking, they hold him up as a symbol of racial unity. Are they freakin' kidding? All they have managed to unify is black people. And last time I checked, they were already pretty unified.

What is unifying about an entire race of people voting for a candidate, not because of the content of his character, and clearly Obama's is in serious question, but because of his skin color? And as is evidenced in the prolific media interviews, the voters are not ashamed to admit that they are skin-color-voters.

Not only is Obama NOT a symbol of racial unity, he's the living embodiment of a national crisis. That crisis is the media-approved, government-sanctioned, and civil rights group-enforced racism perpetrated by minorities against whomever has the misfortune to NOT look like they do. Obama is 50% white but he does not suffer it because he has the good fortune to look like his Arab and African ancestors. His dark-enough skin, although a bit spray-on orange-looking at times, grants him passage among the racist and hate-mongering minority.

Unbelievable.

I agree. I wish I had your gift for writing (and spelling)
MM

Sue you are right on. This election had nothing to do with character. I hope ARPF PC police do not try to hurt your feelings.

This is what I've said. The one thing that Obama has done is erased all that we have accomplished in getting rid of racism of the Afro-American.

As to when this happen...when the dumbasses brought the first ship load of Africans to America. No different then bringing cancer.

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Originally posted by Sue:
When it did become okay to be proudly racist? It's 2008 and we have citizens running around openly admitting to being racists. As a Caucasian who was raised under the constant mantra "We're all the same," I still struggle with the notion that we're not. But, I live in a world where people are raised in communities and churches that say it's not only okay to designate your differences, but a proud responsibility to be exercised. WTF? As a nation, it would appear we've slipped backward 60 or more years. No progress at all.
Unbelievable.

It happened "While You Were Sleeping." Remember the anti-French "freedom fries?" Obama's success, or the G.O.P.'s lack of it as it were, can be blamed squarely on the polarized politics of G.W. Bush. What is unbelievable is that the Republican party, through the courtesy of social conservatives and evangelical types, has allowed itself to become retarded.

Black people are NOT the only racists in America.

Just read a few posts of 500grains, and you will see what I mean.

Obama could have been an angle, 500grains would NOT have voted for him just because he is black!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Black people are NOT the only racists in America.

I would have to agree with that. However, they do have express permission to openly preach and practice racism without threat of being accused of it. Weird.

As a white person I can honestly post with my full name attached on the internet that I would vote for and support Allen Keys every day of the week. Obama and his wife will prove to one and all beyond all doubt that they are the real racists in this country and I predict that it will cost this nation grief untold in many ways.

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Originally posted by buckshot:

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Originally posted by Sue:
When it did become okay to be proudly racist? It's 2008 and we have citizens running around openly admitting to being racists. As a Caucasian who was raised under the constant mantra "We're all the same," I still struggle with the notion that we're not. But, I live in a world where people are raised in communities and churches that say it's not only okay to designate your differences, but a proud responsibility to be exercised. WTF? As a nation, it would appear we've slipped backward 60 or more years. No progress at all.
Unbelievable.

It happened "While You Were Sleeping." Remember the anti-French "freedom fries?" Obama's success, or the G.O.P.'s lack of it as it were, can be blamed squarely on the polarized politics of G.W. Bush. What is unbelievable is that the Republican party, through the courtesy of social conservatives and evangelical types, has allowed itself to become retarded.

buckshot, with all due respect, change your calnedar, it's 2008. we have a new president and blaming everything on bush will only go so far, i figure until about september of 2009.

and, just for the record, bush WASN'T around in jersusalem whispering in pontius pilate's ear!

neither was he in san francisco on a fateful morning in 1906,

nor was he in a barn with a cow in chicago.

new president, new responsibilities.

look forward.

I had the most interesting lunch yesterday with a black man here in town.

Among other things he said the vote for Obama by the Black Community was along racial lines, i.e., putting a "Spotlight" on race, and Obama's presidency is going to further the spotlight on race and racial differences by being a "Black Presidency". In his opinion, this is not and will not be the mark of The United States ending race and prejudicial issues. Instead, it will heighten them by making a "Black President" a topic for the next four years.

I asked him what the election meant for him personally and he said nothing. His father raised him to succeed or not based on his own merits and his vote on Tuesday was an "Anybody but Bush," vote, not a race based vote.

In all, a very interesting lunch that certainly gave me some new perspectives to think about.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Black people are NOT the only racists in America.

Just read a few posts of 500grains, and you will see what I mean.

While it sure seems that "grains" slid off the cracker a bit, one could have seen the same loss of rationality in DRG....any ability to type truth was lost completely.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Black people are NOT the only racists in America.

Just read a few posts of 500grains, and you will see what I mean.

Obama could have been an angle, 500grains would NOT have voted for him just because he is black!

How about posting a few of 500's racist posts for example.

What is interesting about this discussion is that ethnically Obama is more Arab than Black and more White than either.

I can't understand why Saeed isn't shouting from the rooftops that an Arab has been elected President of the US.

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Black people are NOT the only racists in America.

Just read a few posts of 500grains, and you will see what I mean.

While it sure seems that "grains" slid off the cracker a bit, one could have seen the same loss of rationality in DRG....any ability to type truth was lost completely.

Except DRG slid off his Flat Earth instead of a cracker...

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Obama is 50% white

Have you noticed that most "African Americans" are much lighter than Africans from Africa? The people from the parts of Africa where the U.S. bound slaves originated were very dark, much darker than the average American black.

This is because most "African Americans" have some white ancestors. I think we would be surprised if we were to find out how many African Americans are actually more than 50% White.

Jason

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I'm appalled at the number of black people who claim they voted for Obama because this was an historic election. Somehow in their ethnocentric thinking, they hold him up as a symbol of racial unity. Are they freakin' kidding? All they have managed to unify is black people. And last time I checked, they were already pretty unified.

I think you are forgetting that more Blacks supported Hillary Clinton than Obama. The black community saw Obama as half White and half African. Very few Black Americans identify themselves as " African." The African American community saw Obama as an "outsider", at least until he won the Democratic nomination.

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I'm appalled at the number of black people who claim they voted for Obama because this was an historic election.

Almost 90% of Blacks have voted for the Democrat in the past few elections. They may have been excited to vote for Obama because he is the first "Black" president, but they were going to be voting Democrat regardless of color anyway......

I do agree with you that Blacks are more racist, and much more open about it, than Whites.

Jason

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Originally posted by Scott King:
I had the most interesting lunch yesterday with a black man here in town.

There's black people in Alaska?

(Quoted from Oprah on her show a few years ago).

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Originally posted by Gator1:
What is interesting about this discussion is that ethnically Obama is more Arab than Black and more White than either.

Have you seen a picture of Obama's father? He's DARK black and looks nothing like an Arab.

I'm going to throw a curveball here:
A great South African leader, Steve Biko, created something called the Black Consciousness Movement in the 1960's with the express aim to show blacks that they were not inferior to whites.
Not in a militant way, but they lacked a self-respect and could not escape that mindset.
He was murdered in detention by the Police.
To the US: perhaps Obama will achieve this so that the next presidential race will not be about race as much as this one was.
This is aside from the good or bad of his election and more from an international viewpoint.
One thing for sure, it seems as if very many white Americans were voting on racial lines too.

Kenyans are Arab? Palin, get out of this body!

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Originally posted by JBrown:
I think you are forgetting that more Blacks supported Hillary Clinton than Obama. The black community saw Obama as half White and half African. Very few Black Americans identify themselves as " African." The African American community saw Obama as an "outsider", at least until he won the Democratic nomination.

I have to say I observed nothing of the sort. Can you show me the primaries where Hillary won the majority of the black vote over Obama?

Bushies are addicted to lying and just making shit up.

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more Blacks supported Hillary Clinton than Obama

i'd like to see some numbers on this.

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I'm going to throw a curveball here:
A great South African leader, Steve Biko, created something called the Black Consciousness Movement in the 1960's with the express aim to show blacks that they were not inferior to whites.
Not in a militant way, but they lacked a self-respect and could not escape that mindset.
He was murdered in detention by the Police.
To the US: perhaps Obama will achieve this so that the next presidential race will not be about race as much as this one was.
This is aside from the good or bad of his election and more from an international viewpoint.
One thing for sure, it seems as if very many white Americans were voting on racial lines too.

karoo - a very interesting point and i must admit it has some validity to it. you may not be aware of this, but the "experts" have calculated that 8% of whites who voted did so on racial lines. that's doesn't really qualify as "many."