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Why are huge chunks of ice breaking off at Antarctica?



Explained above, here it is again..

Ice sheets will break off after getting so far out over the ocean.

no matter how slow or fast they get pushed out there.Get out so far they break off..

An now on Antarctica for the last 50-70 years or so, the ice and snow have built up

faster than before, due to cooling, making it snow more.. and that big build up with its

extra weight, is pushing ice , the ice is plastic and can flow down grade,

out over the water faster, where it breaks off..


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As crazy as Hubel is, there were articles in multiple papers about poorly placed thermometers. The kicker was, even though they admitted they shouldn't be there giving erroneous readings, they wouldn't change them.


I'm curious to see those papers. Any links would be welcome.
 
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glacier retreating then? Why is there so much less ice on the North Pole


That is due to the oceans climate/temperature shifts to the north, like in the pacific

called LA NINA, but the areas in the southern hemisphere that heat moved away from are

cooler and when/if averaged out there is no worldwide warming, and when poorly sited thermometers are

corrected for, there is a little cooling.....And that cooling overall matches the slight

reduction being measured in the suns output.........It is the sun, not CO2.......


La Nina events happen every few years, but there was never a northern passage open in summer until a few years ago. So it can't be just the effect of La Nina.
 
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Why are huge chunks of ice breaking off at Antarctica?



Explained above, here it is again..

Ice sheets will break off after getting so far out over the ocean.

no matter how slow or fast they get pushed out there.Get out so far they break off..

An now on Antarctica for the last 50-70 years or so, the ice and snow have built up

faster than before, due to cooling, making it snow more.. and that big build up with its

extra weight, is pushing ice , the ice is plastic and can flow down grade,

out over the water faster, where it breaks off..


You get more snow when there is more warmer air, closer to temperatures near freezing point.
 
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You get more snow from some temperature differential..

The warming moving north left area around Antarctica slightly cooler and the onshore winds carrying moisture

were little cooler and the temps onshore were down to give the diffential and it snowed heavy..

Satellite and on ground reports show the snow pack and ice are much deeper. ........

And other proofs of inland temps dropping, is the GLOBAL COOLING deal

that got started in the 60-70s , was due partly to reports

from Antarctic interior, US run, weather stations reporting huge drops in temps, like 16 deg and much more in

ten year periods.... Then when the powers to be decided they could get rich with warming, they forgot about the

drop in Antarctica , buried that data and now only have 4 warmer stations on the coasts there , that they count,

for an area the size of US or Canada. ..Warming is a scam, for money.........


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there was never a northern passage open in summer until a few years ago


What we call the traditional NW passage has not been open in the summer for years,

It goes from Atlantic up between CAN and Greenland to Baffin Bay, then

west through past the north side of Banks Island; out into the

Artic ocean................Now some times the narrow coastal

route going next to continental CAN opens , but it didn't this year.

Since the warming nonsense started and they had the SAT Arctic ice maps on the net,

I check those maps at least twice a week.

Some times the opposite russian side of the Arctic opens up ..

In the 50s and 60s, the NW passage opened some and there is a picture on the net

of a US sub in the 50s, surfaced in open water at the north pole....

Since the SAT been covering ice cover, after the 60s, the north pole

has never been ice free.

It ,50s and 60s actually was on average, warmer back then,with accurate measurements, in the north,


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BP, the write ups came out several months ago.
My computer skills are just above turning this thing on and off, so you are on your own with the search. Just use the info of wrongly sited thermometers. Or maybe Hubel can find it.
 
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From Wattsup...

Verified by NOAA – poor weather station siting leads to

artificial long term warming data..........................

I’ve been saying for years that surface temperature measurements (and long term trends) have been affected by encroachment of urbanization on the placement of weather stations used to measure surface air temperature, and track long term climate.

In doing so we found some hilariously bad examples of climate science in action, such as the official USHCN climate monitoring station at the University of Arizona, Tucson:

I have published on the topic in the scientific literature, and found this to be true based on the science we’ve done of examining the USHCN and applying the siting methodology of Leroy 2010

In Fall et al, 2011 we discovered that there was a change to the diurnal temperature range (DTR). It decreased where stations had been encroached upon, because of the heat sink effect of man-made materials (asphalt, concrete, bricks, etc.) that were near stations.

USHCN weather station in a parking lot. University of Arizona, Tucson

https://i2.wp.com/wattsupwitht...from_above.jpg?ssl=1



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That station reads 6-8 degrees warmer than the whole geographic area it is to represent,

maybe 10,000 sq miles in southern Arizona............

Better to have station sited out in rural area giving honest reading

for 9,900 sq miles and then figure in the cities 1/100 ( maybe 100 sq miles)of the area on top of that actual reading.......

Example if city is 6 deg higher then 1/100 of that is .06 deg, which is added to actual rural reading.

that is the honest way.... AND That adds in the effect of that one city.............


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It's no harder to move the site then putting up a birdhouse, which is all it amounts to. wouldn't have to put a fence around it if moved out of the city proper like it is suppose to be.
 
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In the few instances where Grandpasez gives a source, it's always from some nutz case source, such as wattupwith that. And gramps often uses the plural term "We" as in we discovered such and such. Arguing directly with gramps is like feeding raw red meat to an affirmation hungry troll.

NOTHING he says or has to say is reliable in association with truth. It's 100% reliable in the realm of twisted. The stuff he spews can't get any more twisted, unless of course it was coming directly from Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_Up_With_That%3F

Between 2008 and 2013, WUWT asked its readers to vote in several internet voting-based awards, and it won "best science blog" and "best blog" from the Bloggies[31] and the conservative Wizbang Weblog Awards. In 2013, Leo Hickman wrote in The Guardian Environment Blog that 13 of the 17 blogs nominated for the Science or Technology category for the Bloggies "were either run by climate sceptics, or popular with climate sceptics". The Bloggies founder acknowledged in 2013 that "climate sceptic" bloggers had influenced voting. He said "Unfortunately, I have no good solution for it, since they follow proper voting procedures and legitimate science blogs don't want to make an effort to compete."[32] He discontinued the science category in 2014.[33] WUWT did not win "Best Topical Weblog of the Year" 2014 as Watts claimed, but did enter the Hall of Fame that year.[33]

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It just goes to show that lies are very popular these days.


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Environmentalists can stick a n elephants dick up their rear ends and can elephants trunk down their throats rotflmo


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Originally posted by Bobster:
Climatology is a relatively new science that emerged in the late 19th century. It is based on theories and postulations.


Hate for environmentalists and others who are fond of reality has been around since the word environmentalist was invented. Such hate - I really don't understand.

But I do understand this, and why and how it happened. It's the same mentality as the hate and the denialism, and it's still with us. No remorse.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/...ite-pacific-77328586

Scientist: Extent of DDT dumping in Pacific is 'staggering'
Marine scientists say they have found what they believe to be more than 25,000 barrels that possibly contain DDT dumped off the Southern California coast near Catalina Island

https://www.latimes.com/projec...-ddt-dumping-ground/


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DDT dumping in Pacific is 'staggering'



And what has that got to do with poorly sited weather stations,

and that probably happened, and no sane person id in favor of that.


Facts are there are poorly sited stations giving the temp averages a phony upward swing

Just that simple, the scientists in charge know this and they rail against any

scientist like above poster just did,who exposes it.....In this sick political world the truth

must matter above all else, whether it is, ''there is no warming'', and ''trump conspired with russia''....


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First of all, if it's one of the main themes off wattsupwiththat, then it's a lie right off the top, and it is - both.

Second, if you use that data, either fake to begin with or the conclusions derived, to deny the full scope of climatology or climate change, then you ARE a denier. Your head is full if shit. You "know" so much, yet you find a way, among all of it, to selectively affirm what you think you know and presume and believe, and DENY the rest. That's the definition of climate science denialism. IMO, you are the epitome.

And third, within your presumptions, climate scientists are soooooo ignorant, or ill intended, that they ignore some faulty readings and perpetuate a lie anyway.

So, someone is lying, and I choose people like you are doing the lying.


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DDT dumping in Pacific is 'staggering'



And what has that got to do with poorly sited weather stations,

and that probably happened, and no sane person id in favor of that.

In this sick political world the truth

must matter above all else, whether it is, ''there is no warming'', and ''trump conspired with russia''....


Well, at least there are some things we can agree on.



So what has the "staggering" DDT dump have to do with climate science today?

The climate science denialism, and distrust of science in general, or flat out denialism of all sorts of science, if it conflicts with some innate belief, and the hungryness by many, ideologically or religiously, or whatever, for affirmation of preconceptions, and the associated acceptance of lies, and embracing alt-reality, is at least as staggering as the DDT dump, maybe more since today we ought to know better and learned something.

The lies, denialism, hate for environmentalists, ignorance, ill intent is no less today than it was when the DDT barrels were dumped, and the rationale behind that - either they got away with something, and even worse if they knew better and did it anyway. 3,000 feet on the ocean floor = no accountability. And many conservatives today still believe corp/capitalism will do the "right" thing re environment, unregulated.

It's all on the same plane, continuum of the human nature.

IMO, there ought to be clearly evident clues re "Truth" of sources of info. And some should be dismissed altogether. Examples are americanstinker and of course wattsupwiththat. Their agenda is clear, and it's ill intent. But some sources are as good as it's gonna get these days, heavy on facts and history and science based.

Here's an example of the type of journalism I'm talking about that's of the good.

https://www.latimes.com/projec...-ddt-dumping-ground/


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The use of ASOS weather stations to gather weather information is a real problem as most of those stations are at or close to airports, Denver as an example.
The station is 18 miles from Denver and has an exaggerated temperature range.
Highs are hotter and lows are colder at DIA than at the old Stapleton airport location where it was located from 1950 to 2008.
Therefore, the data is largely useless as a tool to plot meaningful long term trends or temperature averages for Denver, but they sure are! Helps their climate change argument...
 
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I'm sure REAL climate scientists took all that into account when reaching their assessments, all with good and scientific intent.

Prove that they didn't.

And the climate science deniers have intent too, which is why they cherry pick, and harp.

So, who are you gonna believe - the rooster guarding the hen house, or the fox?


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The use of ASOS weather stations to gather weather information is a real problem as most of those stations are at or close to airports, Denver as an example.
The station is 18 miles from Denver and has an exaggerated temperature range.
Highs are hotter and lows are colder at DIA than at the old Stapleton airport location where it was located from 1950 to 2008.
Therefore, the data is largely useless as a tool to plot meaningful long term trends or temperature averages for Denver, but they sure are! Helps their climate change argument...


So the other instruments give bad data because they aren't far enough out of town but this one gives bad data because it's too far out of town?
 
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I'm sure REAL climate scientists took all that into account when reaching their assessments, all with good and scientific intent.

Prove that they didn't.


We KNOW they don’t!
It’s been reported many times in Denver media.

What? It’s OK to account for the relocation of scientific instruments by modeling rather than take ACTUAL readings in an historically utilized location?
The most significant changes in the record perfectly coincide with the move.

This is exactly why there’s skepticism.
 
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So the other instruments give bad data because they aren't far enough out of town but this one gives bad data because it's too far out of town?


It’s bad data because it is not taken from the same location.
It’s like comparing CO levels in a garage and then moving the sensors outside.
It should be looked at as an entirely new data set.
 
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BP, forget some of the kooks like Hubel and Kabob.
Read up on articles by John Bates. He was the NOAA expert in charge of verifying and archiving data.
He accused what is now former director of NOAA, Thomas Karl of insisting on decisions and scientific choices that maximized warming and minimized documentation. And that Karl would leave out data to the otherwise.
 
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but this one gives bad data because it's too far out of town?



No it gives bad data because it is situated at an airport with concrete and blacktop all around..

Like the picture above even if they set it on the narrow strip of grass it is still too close to

sun heated concrete on both sides to give a true reading for the whole area it represents. ..


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Karl of insisting on decisions and scientific choices that maximized warming


Yeh, like him and the other yahoo cut the number of stations they use in the averages

down by 80% and the stations dropped off were rural and from colder areas that gave accurate readings.

Those machinations is how they got the phony hockey stick graph......


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So, you're saying that the REAL scientists are lying, in cahoots.

That's amazing.

I think you are lying.

I wonder why. What's your motive?


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So, you're saying that the REAL scientists are lying, in cahoots.

That's amazing.

I think you are lying.

I wonder why. What's your motive?


Poor old mangina kabooby!

She loves to agree with the Spaz when its Russian collusion.......but when its global warming the old spaz is A kook!

Typical panty waste leftards! When it fits her agenda...she will agree with anyone, when it doesn't fit her agenda......well then they are a kook animal

Leftards are so transparent that they are invisible!


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Hey - TB40, I just bought a 15 passenger shuttle bus van for this summer's Alaska journey. It has the 7.3 powerstroke on a 2002 E450. I'll remove most of the seats and use it as a minimalist camper.

How's that for doing my part as an environmentalist?


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love the 7.3’s and the killer B’s
hard to beat those old diesels


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That is perfect ME and those trees you drive by will thank

for all the extra CO2..Which CO2 has nothing to do with the

ocean climate shift......Or warming.............


AS I TELL FASCISTS, HEED SOMEONE SMARTER, SCIENTIFICALLY, THAN YOU...............



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One indicator of climate shift is the beetle-kill trees. A few years ago, when I still lived in Alaska, it started all over the southern part of the state and moved north. Dead spruce everywhere, vast regions of it, and a fire hazard.

Then on my trips through the western states, and all the way up through western Canada, especially Jasper region, I noticed the dead trees are vast. This is all climate shift.

And if you claim that CO2 has nothing to do with climate change, then you are full of shit, totally ignorant, or lying.


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love the 7.3’s and the killer B’s
hard to beat those old diesels


I'm not familiar with the term "killer B's regarding diesels.

I had been looking for a Ford with the 7.3L for quite a while. I found some, and they were asking premium $. I was looking for a 350, but the 450 is better. My mechanic has several rigs with 7.3L, including an Excursion. And his brother drives one too - a pickup. And my outboard motor mechanic drives one daily. (His day job is a diesel mechanic.) They all have over 200,000 miles, some over 300,000 and one, which my mechanic inherited from his father, has over 600,000 miles. My mechanic has at least three complete engines that he took out of wrecks and has stored. He's the one who recommended this vehicle, and texted me the contact info. The rig belonged to a dealer in a small city nearby, and he's had it about three years. He used it as a party bus, and going to the races in Florida - designated driver sort of thing. He's had it for sale for several months. His car lot is filled with trucks, SUVs, and family type cars. I suppose his regular customers weren't interested in the van beast. It's previous life served as a church bus, and still has the logos and church name on it - faded.

I'm thinking about having the words "Church of the Blue Dome and Green Cathedral" painted on it, so I can be stealth. Wink


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“B” series Cummins
(particularly the earlier variants”

these and the 7.3’s are two of the most durable
medium duty diesels

we have used them in our farming/ranching operations
for decades

hard to beat


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I had a Dodge 4X4 3/4 ton with the 5.9 diesel several years ago, and really liked it. I forget the year model, but it was the old style. I sold it because I needed the money at the time.

I had been talking with my mechanic about finding an old step van, perhaps, and putting a 3.9 (the 4 BT) or 5.9 Cummins in it. Of course he didn't say no, but he didn't encourage it either. So, I think that's why he was eager for me to buy the bus with the 7.3L. It was self-defense Smiler . He's built some rather radical race cars, and has a project or two like that going all the time, for his personal pleasure and for select customers (with real money). He has a special shop set up for just that purpose, aside from the regular shop where he does everything else. I know he can build practically anything, but the only diesels he's interested in, for pleasure, apparently, are the 7.3s.

Of course he works on all sorts of other diesels in the course of general business, but I've heard him grumble about it several times. Usually it goes like this: "Gotta get this one back together and out of here; I've got $5,000 in labor and parts tied up in this and need to get paid and move on the the other stuff on hold. Maybe next week I can fit you in - call me Monday."

If I can remember to do it, maybe I can PM you some pictures.


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Hey - TB40, I just bought a 15 passenger shuttle bus van for this summer's Alaska journey. It has the 7.3 powerstroke on a 2002 E450. I'll remove most of the seats and use it as a minimalist camper.

How's that for doing my part as an environmentalist?


I bought this one up by Seattle, has 85,000 miles on a factory remanufactured 6.0 l Ford engine, drove it home to Tennessee, been driving it off and on since, has never missed a beat.

Gave $1,752.


BTW, an inflatable Full-size bed fits perfectly behind the wheel wells across the back.
 
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That's exactly what I'd like for taking roadracing motorcycles to the track.
The chair lift is perfect for that although one on the rear would be better - don't see many of those though.
 
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That's exactly what I'd like for taking roadracing motorcycles to the track.
The chair lift is perfect for that although one on the rear would be better - don't see many of those though.


They had two essentially identical, I came very close to buying both and just moving one to a storage yard and listing it for sale. The advantage to buying them from government fleets is you know they've had scheduled maintenance done, and they don't bullshit you about them because the guys doing the inspections don't get a cut of what they bring. Mine has a 65 cubic foot reach-in freezer inside that required taking the whole wheelchair door frame out to get inside. I passed on any from northern States like Michigan and Wisconsin to stay away from salt damage. Just keep an eye on the "Buses" category at govdeals.com and you can find whatever suits you. Since the body is fiberglas it would be easy to install a roll-up door on the back if you wanted one, with a pull-out ramp.

It's possible this one will end up being a huge pickup with some Sawzall work, it's 18 feet from the back of the driver's seat to the tail.
 
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If you wanted a gasser this would make a perfect bike hauler, just have to locate a truck shop around Guntersville to put a tranny in, but that wouldn't be hard...
https://www.govdeals.com/index...temid=432&acctid=734
 
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s 40 years worth of satellite images



40 years isn't even a second, in Earth time, 6000 years ago, the Sahara was a lush plain and 18000 years ago, a mile of ice covered most of the Northern hemisphere.

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I bought this one up by Seattle, has 85,000 miles on a factory remanufactured 6.0 l Ford engine, drove it home to Tennessee, been driving it off and on since, has never missed a beat.

Gave $1,752.




The one I bought looks like that, except the wheelchair lift doors are towards the rear on the side.

I hear of those who got such good deals, and I'm envious. I'm paying a lot more for the 2002 model with the 7.3L


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Originally posted by Jefffive:

I bought this one up by Seattle, has 85,000 miles on a factory remanufactured 6.0 l Ford engine, drove it home to Tennessee, been driving it off and on since, has never missed a beat.

Gave $1,752.




The one I bought looks like that, except the wheelchair lift doors are towards the rear on the side.

I hear of those who got such good deals, and I'm envious. I'm paying a lot more for the 2002 model with the 7.3L


Well, to be honest, I did have to put batteries on it a couple months ago. That's literally all I've had to do in a year. Flew to Seattle just as the pandemic was starting and drove it 2,500 miles home.

I buy stuff fairly regularly off govdeals, everybody from the Postal Service to local towns and counties sell their stuff there.
 
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Sorry about diverting this thread, but diesels, busses, campers, minimalist camping/traveling, boondocking, good deals are soooo much more interesting than arguing about climate.

Some time ago, I got the bright idea of building from scratch a truck camper to fit my F150. I got free some materials, extruded aluminum and some fiberglass (FRP). I cut and made the panels myself with screws and rivets and paid for the welding. Still, it's a lot of work and I can see that I'm not going to finish before it's time to go. Thus the van, which is a quick fix.

I still plan on finishing the truck camper, but the pressure is off now with the van.

I'll still have considerable money in it when finished, all the electrical (AC & DC) fans, vents, windows, and I already have about $1000 just in the welding. The epoxy and additional fiberglass cloth, and the urethane pour foam and other insulation - I have about $500 in that already and need more. The jacks/lifts and tie-down is over $1000.

By the time it's finished I may extend it to at least 8 feet long overall.

It has a cabover section. Just to orient you, these pictures show it upside down so I have horizontal surfaces to work with for the pour foam and the FRP panels cut to fit and glued on with epoxy paste.



This is yesterday's and today's work so far. All the weight is to mash down the FRP panes so the epoxy paste oozes out. When it cures I'll clean it up and lay on another layer. It's a long process. I consider it like building a small cabin - no wood. It will be 2" of insulation, all around. (About R10)



After the lower section is finished on the outside shell, I'll get some help and flip it over. I have a fiberglass nose cone off a big rig trailer, and a fiberglass shell, split, to top it off. Joining it all will be the trick. I've not seen this done before, nor find anything on youtube for reference. It will be one of a kind.


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