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Much has been discussed on both sides, so here's a chance to weigh in:

Question:
Will Obama Try To Ban Private Gun Ownwership In The US?

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No! But I am sure, once he and his henchmen, are dug in, they will attempt to severly restrict your use of them.
 
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Will Obama Try To Ban Private Gun Ownwership In The US?

This is the poll question.....was it misread?...It don't say that he will be successful....only that he will try.!


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Originally posted by vapodog:
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Will Obama Try To Ban Private Gun Ownwership In The US?

This is the poll question.....was it misread?...It don't say that he will be successful....only that he will try.!


You are correct. I asked if Obama will TRY to ban private gun ownership. Not hope, not wish, but try in a concrete way through Executive Order or ???.
 
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No! But I am sure, once he and his henchmen, are dug in, they will attempt to severly restrict your use of them.


Elaborate, please.
 
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Originally posted by Tembo:
Much has been discussed on both sides, so here's a chance to weigh in:
Yes in the first four years he will restrict them.
Notice I said HE WILL RESTRICT THEM, not he will TRY to restrict them.

If he is re-elected he will try to ban them completely.

He is a liar and a fraud.

If you don't believe me check out the link below...



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"I'm the guy that originally wrote the "assault weapons" ban." -----Senator Joe Biden

NEW Obsama's Agenda LINK

Scroll down to: CRIME AND LAW ENFORCEMENT

TEXT FROM OFFICIAL WEBSITE LINK ABOVE:

CRIME AND LAW ENFORCEMENT

Address Gun Violence in Cities:
As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

My Dad's law of plausible deniability:
"If you want to show someone their idea won't work, do it EXACTLY like they tell you to.
Unless you are dealing with Democrats. Those dumb SOB's don't believe ANYTHING, even their own failure."


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Yes in the first four years he will restrict them.

If he is re-elected he will try to ban them completely.


Bingo, +1


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For the record, I voted Yes.


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I don't have to tell you how I voted... patriot
 
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Crickets, from the Obongo supporters.
 
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I do not believe he will try to completely ban all guns. I do believe the if he thought he could, he would. I do believe purchasing additional guns and ammo will probably get much more difficult.


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I no longer have any guns. They were all, er, uh, lost in a flood.
 
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Go to the theater Mr. President, go to the theater!

and drive by the book depository on the way.


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I doubt that any life insurance company wants to issue a police to President Elect Hussein.
 
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I am sure that congress and the president will pass a ban more restrictive than before. But it won't go down so easy this time because:

1. Today many, many more people have guns that were banned as "assault weapons". Just before the Assault Weapons ban, many people purchased "assault weapons" because they knew they wouldn't be able to get them later. After the ban took effect, many more people were sorry they hadn't purchased an "assault weapon" before the ban and "pre-ban" weapons sold at high prices. After the ban expired, a lot of the people that had missed the opportunity to purchase banned guns took advantage of the restored opportunity and went out a bought an "assault weapon". They are now more prevalent and popular than ever before.

2. Countless thousands of ex-service members now own "assault weapons". Thousands of young Americans served in the wars in the middle east using the M16 rifle, M4 carbine, and the M9 pistol. A large number of them returned home with a desire to own and shoot civilian, semi-auto, versions of those weapons and they have already acquired the weapons. They feel they have earned a right to own them.

3. Unlike last time, many gun manufacturers have a stake in the sale of "assault weapons". When the last ban was enacted, only Colt and a few small gun makers were manufacturing or importing "assault weapons". Today, there are many more companies making guns or accessories for "assault weapons", including big companies like Remington and Smith & Wesson.

4. Too many people already fear the prospect of a Big Brother government. Public resistance will be likely. Hundreds of thousands of gun owners will be willing to live as felony violators instead of registering or licensing their guns. They already fear a list of owners would lead to confiscation and, in tough economic times, there is a higher chance that a mass confiscation would initiate an armed revolt.

I fear what will happen if the government goes down this path.

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Elaborate, please.



By looking at who is on his side, I would expect higher taxes on firearms, munitions,and reloading components, the excuse will be to pay for lawsuits, and damages caused by firearms, filed against gun dealers and manufacuters, I expect the gun ban to be reinstated, with more provisions, and last, I expect some form of licensing and testing, to own firearms or certain firearms.

All of the above will, and rumors to the above, is already leading to shotages, higher prices, and coming restrictions.
 
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The list of weapons that I think Obama will push congress to ban will include those he has already said he is against.

He and his cronies in congress will attempt to ban ALL HANDGUNS from private ownership. He has already stated his position on that.

I would also expect an effort to ban ALL CENTERFIRE SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS. You "don't have any reason to own" one of those. You can hunt and shoot single shots, double barreled, drillings, bolt action, and pump guns.

They will also go after anything they can call a "SNIPER WEAPON". I don't know how they will classify it. Perhaps by caliber, optics, or weight. But you don't need a rifle that can shoot something 500 yards away.

They will also go after ammunition, classifying much of it as "MILITARY" AND "COP KILLER" AMMUNITION. Forget FMJ ammo. Forget 5.56mm, 7.62mm, 9mm, and 45 caliber ammo. You don't need a killer "Fail Safe" bullet in .300 magnum to shoot a deer.

They will attempt to ban all ammunition with ANY LEAD CONTENT by claiming it is environmentally bad. There goes the .22 rimfires.

If you voted for Obama and the Democrats who control congress then just watch what happens. When they outlaw your guns just pick up a knife and start slicing your chest chanting "Stupid, stupid, stupid..."



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Originally posted by Grenadier:
The list of weapons that I think Obama will push congress to ban will include those he has already said he is against.

He and his cronies in congress will attempt to ban ALL HANDGUNS from private ownership. He has already stated his position on that.

I would also expect an effort to ban ALL CENTERFIRE SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS. You "don't have any reason to own" one of those. You can hunt and shoot single shots, double barreled, drillings, bolt action, and pump guns.

They will also go after anything they can call a "sniper weapon". I don't know how they will classify it. Perhaps by caliber, optics, or weight. But you don't need a rifle that can shoot something 500 yards away.

They will also go after ammunition, classifying much of it as "military" or "cop killer" ammunition. Forget FMJ ammo. Forget 5.56mm, 7.62mm, 9mm, and 45 caliber ammo. You don't need a killer "Fail Safe" bullet in .300 magnum to shoot a deer.

They will attempt to ban all ammunition with any lead content. Environmentally bad. There goes the .22 rimfires.

If you voted for Obama and the Democrats who control congress then just watch what happens. When they outlaw your guns just pick up a knife and start slicing your chest chanting "Stupid, stupid, stupid..."

and that's why they need this:
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"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."


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I'm 100% certain he will do whatever he thinks he'll be able to get passed. I see another AWB and increased taxes on ammo and components as the first lamb on the chopping block.


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Go to the theater Mr. President, go to the theater!

and drive by the book depository on the way.
and take the convertible...



JUST A TYPICAL WHITE GUY BITTERLY CLINGING TO GUNS AND RELIGION

"I'm the guy that originally wrote the "assault weapons" ban." -----Senator Joe Biden

NEW Obsama's Agenda LINK

Scroll down to: CRIME AND LAW ENFORCEMENT

TEXT FROM OFFICIAL WEBSITE LINK ABOVE:

CRIME AND LAW ENFORCEMENT

Address Gun Violence in Cities:
As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

My Dad's law of plausible deniability:
"If you want to show someone their idea won't work, do it EXACTLY like they tell you to.
Unless you are dealing with Democrats. Those dumb SOB's don't believe ANYTHING, even their own failure."


LINK TO Who Controlls Congress
 
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Odingabama is not American in his ideals and philosophy yet he is the president elect. Sad. Gun rights is about many things but mostly the power to keep yourself FREE, self defense and keeping the govt at bay in terms of usurping or abusing power. All the anti gun idiots oposing reasons are so tiny in comparison.


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A friend of mine in Seattle had one of these signs on his front door in 1975.
He had pictures of Negros on his living room walls.

The ironic thing was a he had his 22 semi auto rifle, he had had since childhood, in his bedroom closet.

What does it all mean?
Liberals are being run by their feelings, not thoughts.


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What does it all mean?
Liberals are being run by their feelings, not thoughts.

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"...all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." Thomas Jefferson *Want to piss off a politician? Defend the constitution
 
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Yes I think he will try, But I don't think he can legaly take them away.
That said he, and the dem's can make it harder than hell to purchace new ones, and make it very expencive to buy ammo and relaoding components. I think this is the rout he will take.
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