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REPENT v. To sorrow or be pained for sin, as a violation of God's holy law, a dishonor to His character and government, and the foulest ingratitude to a Being of infinite benevolence.
 
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In contrast, the message of Jesus was one of humility, charity, and brotherly love. He taught transformation of the inner person. Jesus presents the Beatitudes in a positive sense, virtues in life which will ultimately lead to reward. Love becomes the motivation for the Christian. All of the Beatitudes have an eschatological meaning, that is, they promise us salvation - not in this world, but in the next. The Beatitudes initiate one of the main themes of Matthew's Gospel, that the Kingdom so long awaited in the Old Testament is not of this world, but of the next, the Kingdom of Heaven.


If Jesus was on earth right now, you neocons would call him a socialist tree hugging liberal hippie. How do you neocons express any of the above characteristics?
 
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If Jesus was on earth right now, you neocons would call him a socialist tree hugging liberal hippie. How do you neocons express any of the above characteristics?


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In contrast, the message of Jesus was one of humility, charity, and brotherly love. He taught transformation of the inner person. Jesus presents the Beatitudes in a positive sense, virtues in life which will ultimately lead to reward. Love becomes the motivation for the Christian. All of the Beatitudes have an eschatological meaning, that is, they promise us salvation - not in this world, but in the next. The Beatitudes initiate one of the main themes of Matthew's Gospel, that the Kingdom so long awaited in the Old Testament is not of this world, but of the next, the Kingdom of Heaven.


If Jesus was on earth right now, you neocons would call him a socialist tree hugging liberal hippie.

And now you're comparing yourself to Jesus?????


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In contrast, the message of Jesus was one of humility, charity, and brotherly love. He taught transformation of the inner person. Jesus presents the Beatitudes in a positive sense, virtues in life which will ultimately lead to reward. Love becomes the motivation for the Christian. All of the Beatitudes have an eschatological meaning, that is, they promise us salvation - not in this world, but in the next. The Beatitudes initiate one of the main themes of Matthew's Gospel, that the Kingdom so long awaited in the Old Testament is not of this world, but of the next, the Kingdom of Heaven.


If Jesus was on earth right now, you neocons would call him a socialist tree hugging liberal hippie.

And now you're comparing yourself to Jesus?????


Huh? Look at some of the posts here from the so called Christian right, who claim to be the moral compass of the country. Then read what cool posted. Do you see a disconnect?

Here is an example of the neocon's brotherly love:

http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3811043/m/662105769

What would Jesus say? Try to answer honestly for once.
 
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Paying off people who are poor for votes is Christian? Is that what Jesus Would Do?




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Obama: "It would be foolish, at such a critical time in our history, to pick people who had no experience."

New Commander In Chief of the United States:

"I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated," Obama told O'Reilly in an interview taped Thursday in York, PA. "It's succeeded beyond our wildest dreams."

Barack, a foreign policy failure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCgPR3Qd2Os

Barack, I've got a bracelet too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsjkkmnPcU&NR=1
 
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Paying off people who are poor for votes is Christian? Is that what Jesus Would Do?


Don't change the subject. Answer the question.

What would Jesus say if we saw some of these posts from the neocons here?

The neocon claim to be morally superior here and complain about the secular liberals and how it is destroying this country.
 
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You're doing the "they are worse than we are" excuse.

I think I made my point.

Judge not lest ye be judged.
 
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While your all gathered here.
I have a few theological questions ...

Is Jesus immune to Kryptonite?

Who would win in a scrap, King Kong or Jesus?

Godzilla or Jesus?

Freddie Kruger or Jesus?

Was Steve Marriott really the second coming of the son of god, or just another Mortal Mod?

These thing are troubling me.


"When doing battle, seek a quick victory."
 
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Paying off people who are poor for votes is Christian? Is that what Jesus Would Do?


Don't change the subject. Answer the question.

What would Jesus say if we saw some of these posts from the neocons here?

The neocon claim to be morally superior here and complain about the secular liberals and how it is destroying this country.


1st I think Jesus would freak out if he saw the internet.

2nd I think neocon is, as it has been pointed out, not necessarily conservative or christian.

As for myself, I'm a secular conservative, I'm sure you don't like the broad brush painting you into a corner?




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Obama: "It would be foolish, at such a critical time in our history, to pick people who had no experience."

New Commander In Chief of the United States:

"I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated," Obama told O'Reilly in an interview taped Thursday in York, PA. "It's succeeded beyond our wildest dreams."

Barack, a foreign policy failure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCgPR3Qd2Os

Barack, I've got a bracelet too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsjkkmnPcU&NR=1
 
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In contrast, the message of Jesus was one of humility, charity, and brotherly love. He taught transformation of the inner person. Jesus presents the Beatitudes in a positive sense, virtues in life which will ultimately lead to reward. Love becomes the motivation for the Christian. All of the Beatitudes have an eschatological meaning, that is, they promise us salvation - not in this world, but in the next. The Beatitudes initiate one of the main themes of Matthew's Gospel, that the Kingdom so long awaited in the Old Testament is not of this world, but of the next, the Kingdom of Heaven.


If Jesus was on earth right now, you neocons would call him a socialist tree hugging liberal hippie. How do you neocons express any of the above characteristics?


Exactly who are you calling a neocon?

Jesus isn't pro abortion.
He wouldn't take away our guns.
Jesus believes marriage is between a man and a woman.

Doesn't sound like a "socialist tree hugging liberal hippie" to me.


REPENT v. To sorrow or be pained for sin, as a violation of God's holy law, a dishonor to His character and government, and the foulest ingratitude to a Being of infinite benevolence.
 
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Paying off people who are poor for votes is Christian? Is that what Jesus Would Do?


Don't change the subject. Answer the question.

What would Jesus say if we saw some of these posts from the neocons here?

The neocon claim to be morally superior here and complain about the secular liberals and how it is destroying this country.


1st I think Jesus would freak out if he saw the internet.

2nd I think neocon is, as it has been pointed out, not necessarily conservative or christian.

As for myself, I'm a secular conservative, I'm sure you don't like the broad brush painting you into a corner?


Of course a large group of neocons are secular -- actually I think the more intelligent ones are. But that ones that aren't have the "holier than thou" mentality.
 
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You're doing the "they are worse than we are" excuse.

I think I made my point.


6BR, isn't that what you were attempting to do when you stated, "Look at some of the posts here from the so called Christian right, who claim to be the moral compass of the country. Then read what cool posted. Do you see a disconnect?

Here is an example of the neocon's brotherly love:"

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Judge not lest ye be judged.


6BR, please cite chapter and verse where you found this in the Bible?


Dirk,

The difference is that I don't claim to be morally superior than anyone else. I think if gay couples want to get married, more power to them, if it make them happy. I am against abortion, but I'm pro-choice because I think each person need to come to that conclusion on their own time.

I try to follow Jesus' teaching, although I don't even consider myself a very religious person. I think what he was teaching is just basic decent human behavior.

Yhe "Judge not ..." quote is Mathew 7:1, although each of the Bible is slightly different.
 
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Paying off people who are poor for votes is Christian? Is that what Jesus Would Do?


Don't change the subject. Answer the question.

What would Jesus say if we saw some of these posts from the neocons here?

The neocon claim to be morally superior here and complain about the secular liberals and how it is destroying this country.


About the same thing as if he read some of the crap you ultra libs write. Get off your high horse.


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In contrast, the message of Jesus was one of humility, charity, and brotherly love. He taught transformation of the inner person. Jesus presents the Beatitudes in a positive sense, virtues in life which will ultimately lead to reward. Love becomes the motivation for the Christian. All of the Beatitudes have an eschatological meaning, that is, they promise us salvation - not in this world, but in the next. The Beatitudes initiate one of the main themes of Matthew's Gospel, that the Kingdom so long awaited in the Old Testament is not of this world, but of the next, the Kingdom of Heaven.


If Jesus was on earth right now, you neocons would call him a socialist tree hugging liberal hippie.

And now you're comparing yourself to Jesus?????


Huh? Look at some of the posts here from the so called Christian right, who claim to be the moral compass of the country. Then read what cool posted. Do you see a disconnect?

Here is an example of the neocon's brotherly love:

http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3811043/m/662105769

What would Jesus say? Try to answer honestly for once.


The post is a citation to the beatitudes you idiot, not from the Christian right claiming to be the moral compass of the country!
 
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You're doing the "they are worse than we are" excuse.

I think I made my point.


6BR, isn't that what you were attempting to do when you stated, "Look at some of the posts here from the so called Christian right, who claim to be the moral compass of the country. Then read what cool posted. Do you see a disconnect?

Here is an example of the neocon's brotherly love:"

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Judge not lest ye be judged.


6BR, please cite chapter and verse where you found this in the Bible?


Dirk,

The difference is that I don't claim to be morally superior than anyone else. I think if gay couples want to get married, more power to them, if it make them happy. I am against abortion, but I'm pro-choice because I think each person need to come to that conclusion on their own time.

I try to follow Jesus' teaching, although I don't even consider myself a very religious person. I think what he was teaching is just basic decent human behavior.

Yhe "Judge not ..." quote is Mathew 7:1, although each of the Bible is slightly different.


How about if a father wishes to place his daughter in sexual competition with her mother? Is it "more power" to them too 6br? Where do you draw the line? Since you think it perfectly acceptable for sodomites to call women men and men women, why not permit powerful whites to declare that blacks are really oxen and swine? Since rebellion against nature is perfectly acceptable, why not be consistent?

This nation was founded free and independent on an appeal to the laws of nature and of nature's God. Nature and reason tell us that homosexuality is wrong as surely as they tell us that a man is not a horse or a dog or a swine. Both reason and revelation are in agreement as to the instrinsic immorality of homosexuality. And yet no one is proposing to deny sodomites any right. Rather, society merely refuses to accord to them a privilege which has always been reserved for heterosexual couples. No society in the history of the world has given status parity to homosexual behavior.


It would not matter if every religion in the world declared homosexuality "moral" it would still be immoral because it would still be contra naturam. But it is ironic that acolytes of homosexuality rail against Christians. It is virtually an acknowledgement that the Christian God is indeed responsible for a created difference between the sexes, but sodomites are in rebellion against that God and his authority.
 
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6BR, I think I get it now! You are morally superior because you don't claim to be morally superior. You just think it?

Matthew 7:1 is the verse so many use to try to shame Christians for discerning poor behavior, ethics, morals, and values. This verse is not speaking to not judging at all. It is speaking to not judging unfair or any other cheap and selfish way. Taken literally, by itself, the verse seems to support the allusion that we are not to judge at all. That would by using small-vision tactics by focusing on only a small piece of the total of what Jesus is saying.

And, as a FEW examples of His desire for us to judge,
• 1Corinthians 6:2-3 Do you not know that the saints [the saved; Christians] will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!
• Proverbs 3:21 My son, preserve sound judgment and discernment, do not let them out of your sight;
• John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
• Jerimiah 22:3 Thus saith the LORD; Execute ye judgment and righteousness...
• Philippians 1:10 so that you may be able to discern [judge] what is best and may be pure and blameless until the day of Christ...
• Philippians 1:7 It is right for me to feel this way about all of you [judge you]...


The look at the very first Google search result:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=judge+not+lest+ye+...ch&aq=1&oq=judge+not

At least try to put it in your own words.
 
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6BR, I think I get it now! You are morally superior because you don't claim to be morally superior. You just think it?

Matthew 7:1 is the verse so many use to try to shame Christians for discerning poor behavior, ethics, morals, and values. This verse is not speaking to not judging at all. It is speaking to not judging unfair or any other cheap and selfish way. Taken literally, by itself, the verse seems to support the allusion that we are not to judge at all. That would by using small-vision tactics by focusing on only a small piece of the total of what Jesus is saying.

And, as a FEW examples of His desire for us to judge,
• 1Corinthians 6:2-3 Do you not know that the saints [the saved; Christians] will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!
• Proverbs 3:21 My son, preserve sound judgment and discernment, do not let them out of your sight;
• John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
• Jerimiah 22:3 Thus saith the LORD; Execute ye judgment and righteousness...
• Philippians 1:10 so that you may be able to discern [judge] what is best and may be pure and blameless until the day of Christ...
• Philippians 1:7 It is right for me to feel this way about all of you [judge you]...


The look at the very first Google search result:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=judge+not+lest+ye+...ch&aq=1&oq=judge+not

At least try to put it in your own words.


Do you even own a Bible alone read it? You had to look that up on Google? Roll Eyes
 
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Do you guys live by your computers all day? I was just having dinner and spending some time with my family.

But Jordan, once again you proved my point with your post about homosexuality. You told me to get off my high horse while you were riding high on yours.

Dirk, that post didn't sound like you. You do a one or two line post with an insult in there somewhere. I knew you copied it from somewhere. Tried google, and BAM! First hit!
 
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