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Re: RCBS Swagiging Dies
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RCBS did make bullet swaging dies, .22 calibre for sure, back when they first started. Thats what RCBS stands for Rock Chucker Bullet Swage.
 
Posts: 85 | Location: Calgary Alberta Kanada | Registered: 30 November 2004Reply With Quote
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O you mean Ted Smith's Rock Chucker patten sold to RCBS

 
Posts: 1557 | Location: Home of the original swage | Registered: 29 February 2004Reply With Quote
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Go to Corbins web site and ask them.They used to sell a reprint of Ted Smiths book, The Bullet Swage Manual. I am sure Dave Corbin can help you. Dave
 
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Darth Dave Corbin never built anything lol
Richard Corbin Did Darth Dave sat in the office
and took order's and wrote book's on thing's he never did lol

It help's if you have know these guys for over 35 year's
since thay lived in the same town i do and since Ted Smith Did as well.

Richard Corbin's Web Address http://www.rceco.com/index.htm
----------------------- Richard's letter--------back to me

Well, that looks like a bunch of parts from several different die sets.
There are three photos of an old RCBS or copy of the RCBS two pice bullet
swage. The bearing of the bullet is in the lower part, the ogive in the top
part that has the tee handle. The two pieces are screwed together and put
in an A2 press. There should be a ram extension that went in the top of the
A2 ram and held the long punches that are in one photo.
You'd slip a jacket and core up into the die and using one of the long
punches seat the core in the jacket. Then unscrew the top of the die and
push the assembly up and out of the die. A longer punch was needed to do
this. So two punches are required.
Then you'd put the ogive piece on the botom part of the die and run a
core/jacket asembly up into the die using a point form punch. When the
bullet was swaged you'd unscrew the to part that has the ogive in it and
push the bullet up and out of the die.
This two piece type of die could make good bullets but was slower than
anything to use. Similar types of dies are used in high speed power presses
to make bullets but that's a different ball game. The other problem with
this type of die is that the two pieces must be exactally match up. When
the pieces wear they loose alignment and you end up with bullet that have
the ogive off center from the body of the bullet. This type of die is alos
nearly impossible to use in larger calibers. It takes a lot of force to
seperate the two pieces when making big bullets with heavy jackets.

One of the dies has a lock nut that we used to make at Corbin Mfg. The
nut is slotted deeply and has a socket cap screw that spreads the nut apart
to bind the threads. The die is a core swage die for use in a
loading press. I think the die is one that was made by Corbn Mfg. It is
very old and wasn't especially good. The die extends from the threaded
holder and places the die rather low in the press. Made it hard to get much
leverage and we replaced that type with another one that had different
problems. Then we quit offering core swage dies in the loading press sets.

One part looks to be a relacement ram. It has the slot in the bottom
for the connecting link and probably adapts the press sover to swaging. I'd
guess that the press was one of the simple leverage ones and not well suited
to swaging anything but small bullets.

The frame is an ejector frame that would mount on the press somehow.
The downstroke of the press would push on the ejector rod on the top of the
die and push the bullet out of the die. It is one way to speed up bullet
swaging when using a loading press. There have been alot of attempts to
make loading presses into swaging presses and they never work very well
regardless of the quality of worksmanship.

There are a couple of round pieces that have a slot or notch in one end.
These look like ram extensions for the A2 or some other press. I'd guess
that they would somehow hold the swaging die and perhaps a knock out bar
would go through the slot. When the ram goes down the KO bar would push on
the punch inside of the ram extension and eject the bullet.
Lot of guessing on this but that looks like a possibility.

Mostly it's a bunch of scrap or collectors tools. Doesn't look like
anything I'd want to send money on except perhaps the two piece swage and
then only for the purpose of having one.
It's an interesting set for a collector but not of much use to someone
who wants to make bullets.

Richard Corbin


It's very cheap to start swaging bullet's Richard Can get you started for under 500.00
One new set of three piece die's and a WallNut Hill's older vertion ( but still New )

No one says you have to have all the things at once
like 3 multi swage press's and 18 die set's 9 roll's of lead and 5000 jacket's in diffrent diam/'s
And extruder / and a jacket maker


Pottsy
 
Posts: 1557 | Location: Home of the original swage | Registered: 29 February 2004Reply With Quote
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Contact Dave Davison at CH for a guide to using the die's
Or better yet call him most likely he will be down stair's
so the wife will answer the phone.. don't worry he work's out of the basement
 
Posts: 1557 | Location: Home of the original swage | Registered: 29 February 2004Reply With Quote
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Thanks Pottsy , That's what I wanted to know.
The C-H set has two dies.
New Toys, What Fun !
 
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