Once again another of my pet peeves is about the total misappropriation of MY MONEY to deal with deadbeats.This has been going for years + I have had a problem with it all the time.When my kids were little + my business was shaky,the wife ran off I could have got food stamps or free lunches but I did'nt. I have more pride than that. My boys,full grown now have more pride than that. I only mention this now as I was in the H.E.B. grocery store yesterday + the Mexican man in front of me (very well dressed) had a full grocery cart,similac,diapers,baby food,groceries,etc. Then he produces his "Lone Star Card" r/e welfare;pays for all the groceries,etc. w/ our money then the cases of Budweiser got paid for with a wad of bills that would choke a horse. He had money,he just chose to ....never mind/you get it. Also you can believe that is another Democrat vote + .....
For me, reading political discussions in English is an extremely exciting experience. Most entertaining is the fact that all participants believe that Russia is a socialist or even Communist country . The U.S., of course, just the reserve of socialism. Even, perhaps, of communism. After all, what is the principle of a Communist society? "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". This Mexican is clearly satisfies his needs, and the fact that he gives nothing to society - apparently, his abilities are as follows. But I have to say that this situation may continue indefinitely. The collapse of socialism in Russia was not caused by social parasitism (its magnitude was much less than in the U.S., and parasitism could be in jail). Just state managers have decided that they can privatize state property, and their calculation is justified. So the "culture of welfare" unlikely to fall apart by itself.
Posts: 2356 | Location: Moscow | Registered: 07 December 2012
That happens to me nearly every time at the grocery store here. They'll use my money to buy the groceries, then theirs to buy the smokes, brewskies, etc. Irksome to say the least.
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Posts: 3291 | Location: Southern NM USA | Registered: 01 October 2002
Vashper,actually my conception of the differences between capitalism + communism is simply that under the former if I work hard I can afford a cadillac;under the latter,if I work hard + the next guy does'nt,the gov. takes my cadillac so that we can be equal.
Deadbeats come in all flavors and colors. I would imagine the Hispanics taking care of your yard, cleaning your house, and serving you in a restaurant feel exactly the same way you do when they stand in line behind one of their compatriots at the grocery store.
I know I get real irritated when an old white guy gets anything for free, parks in handicapped parking (then runs into the store), and pays with his disability check or sits with me in the doctor's office on Medicaid.
Where do all these old white guys come from? Must be like everyone else......Mexico.
Posts: 13773 | Location: Texas | Registered: 10 May 2002
Forty years ago there was line of women in front of the West Lynn Cash and Carry in Austin on the first of every month peddling their food stamps for enough money to buy beer and cigarettes. Some of them had their children with them while they sold their whole month's allotment for a case of beer and a carton of cigarettes. Some things never change.
Posts: 3174 | Location: Warren, PA | Registered: 08 August 2002
Was this medieval Prince Vlad Tsepesh, who after his ascension to the throne called all the poor of his state, promising to do so that they will not starve. For the audience, he gave a Banquet in a Grand building, closed it and burned together with the poor. Also decision, but it is unlikely to pass now all the necessary procedures.
Posts: 2356 | Location: Moscow | Registered: 07 December 2012
The Vlad that Vashper refers to was Bram Stoker's Dracula. Those were rough times + he had to fight the Ottoman Turk anyway he could .Bear in mind that Translyvania was not at this point in time part of the russian satellites.A small province in the Carpathian mountain range.The legend came from the tales that Vlad would ride out to do battle with the turk + although thought killed would return the next day to give battle thus starting the imortality myth.........Just for a sec. back to the original subject;I have NO issue with anyone who wants to work + better their way of life. I raise issue with those that would ride the system at others expense,what ever color.
Franklin Roosevelt set up the social security system + GUARANTEED that NO money from that fund would ever go to fund any other govt. projects. Well,to give him his due,all the thefts have occured after his death.But in answer to your question I would point you to Fergason,Mo. for your answer.The government is not concerned with us "white folks" who put all the money in ;they are worried about the freeloaders getting angry.
Perhaps we should take the wider view that welfare, medicaid, etc are simply modern forms of the coliseum and is tax money used to subvert unrest by keeping the poorer among us from revolt. It is no wonder that the recipients game the system, it's human nature to try to take advantage of the rules of static systems.
xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere.
NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR.
I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process.
Posts: 17099 | Location: Texas USA | Registered: 07 May 2001
maybe if the working class would publicly shame these freeloaders at every chance it would change things up a bit....what mother then would want their children subjected to such public "abuse"? Maybe that would be a beginning to the end of generational free-loading? We have to do something different to break the cycle...nothing currently is working and if anything, it's getting worse. years ago people felt "shame" to accept a hand-out...for good reason. That reason was that people shamed them and talked about them in the public....time to get this going again. Hell, if you are willing to stand behind these people and watch them eat better than you...with some of your money and remain silent......just who in the hell is the stupid one? SAY SOMETHING.
Posts: 4115 | Location: Pa. | Registered: 21 April 2006
... and stop blaming the welfare problem only on Hispanics.
By the way, the people immigrating, either legally or illegally aren't loaded down with drugs. Do you think the drug Cartels might possibly be bringing drugs across in bulk? Immigration is one problem. Drug traffic is a whole different ball game.
Our culture now doesn't allow us to "shame" people. It would be considered "bullying". That's the shame of it.
Posts: 13773 | Location: Texas | Registered: 10 May 2002
... and stop blaming the welfare problem only on Hispanics.
You know Kensco.....I don't see where any body did?
Now just 'cause these "hispanics" are entering our country ILLEGALLY like rats from the sinking ships they created and are looking to create the same thing here that they fled from in the country's they destroyed.....nah....I see no reason to upset with 'em.
What's the deal?
Posts: 41769 | Location: Crosby and Barksdale, Texas | Registered: 18 September 2006
No,it is not just about Hispanics.A few years ago I was in the check out line at the grocery store with a 350 lb. black woman in line in front of me. Paid for her huge cart with food stamps but was told that she could not use them for the dog food. She say's thats all right I'll just go back + get me some hamburger. Along that same line; this is from an article in the National Revue mag. You know all the fees on the back of your phone bill? Well the one that says Universal fee is actually you paying for free cel. phones for the welfare recipients. Twanda Jackson was quoted as saying,"I gets me a new one every month when I goes in to get my 'entitlements'". That term is another burr for me. It is Life,Liberty + the PURSUIT of happiness,not a guarantee.
xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere.
NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR.
I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process.
Posts: 17099 | Location: Texas USA | Registered: 07 May 2001
I will hypothesize that the real reason food stamps are up so much during the bush and obama administration is us corporations have lobbied hard for it.
2 groups
Low wage corporations - Walmart and food services - some have held internal training classes for employees to learn how to get food stamps
Consumer/food service companies - if on the margin more money is available consumers less likely to substitute away from name brands to generics.
The rise in food stamps is mainly driven by information - the qualifying group is better informed they qualify.
Same time the vested corporate interest will make it very tough to cut back.
I was at 7/11 tonight - you can buy a frozen/uncooked pizza on foodstamps. If is cooked it does not qualify. So 7/11 had a sign buy frozen pizza - after it is bought they will zap it in their super fast oven.
People really want to address welfare entitlements - try medicare and someone show me private health insurance for anyone over 65 that does not use medicare as a backbone.
Mike
Posts: 13145 | Location: Cocoa Beach, Florida | Registered: 22 July 2010
Everything could be cut square in an instant but the gov. does not work that way. (Success through failure.)Sorry but that seems to be the order of the day + once again,I am resentful at being ordered to pay for it...again.
If the recipients of welfare were to loose the right to vote, then the appearance of buying votes would go away and the politicians willingness to increase the numbers of recipients. When this proves successful the same solution could be applied to civil servants. Anything you subsidize you will get more of!
Jim
"Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 6173 | Location: Richmond, Virginia | Registered: 17 September 2000
If the recipients of welfare were to loose the right to vote, then the appearance of buying votes would go away and the politicians willingness to increase the numbers of recipients.
Yep!
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Posts: 41769 | Location: Crosby and Barksdale, Texas | Registered: 18 September 2006
That is a very good point indeed.Take the insentive out of the free lunch. I have a friend that worked 25 years for the highway dept.,got his back screwed up. While in the hwy. dept. they piss tested him for drugs. Now he's out + in "pain management" he has to piss test again.The irony here should be transparant.I will spell it out verbatime but I feel that the people here are way beyond that.
. The U.S., of course, just the reserve of socialism. Even, perhaps, of communism. After all, what is the principle of a Communist society? "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". This Mexican is clearly satisfies his needs, and the fact that he gives nothing to society - apparently, his abilities are as follows. But I have to say that this situation may continue indefinitely. The collapse of socialism in Russia was not caused by social parasitism (its magnitude was much less than in the U.S., and parasitism could be in jail). Just state managers have decided that they can privatize state property, and their calculation is justified. So the "culture of welfare" unlikely to fall apart by itself.
It's him that doesn't get it.......
