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Well, I got hit a few days ago by a new telephone scam by a company I have found out is Ringplanet. They called up + let it be known that they represented AT+T + since AT+T has gone digital instead of analog then I would have to change my phone system (requiring their phones) + also need an additional line for my fax. I didn't understand anything this guy said but since he was (I thought) from AT+T then what do we have to do to keep my phone online? Famous last words, "Click here". I had a bad feeling about the whole thing but then I called my son, the techno-wizard + he says He'll straighten it out but it will be a pain in the ass as my clicking instead of updating my AT+T acct. actually authorized them to terminate my AT+T lines + get stuck with them. In addition to adding a separate fax line now I would only have phone service in my home + none in my shop. HMMM, running a business without a phone? My son is at a conference in NYC for the next 3 days but should get things worked out when he gets home. I was not born last night + I am always leery of cons but this one hit me broadside. Just passing it along to everyone to be aware.


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Posts: 17357 | Location: Austin, Texas | Registered: 11 March 2013Reply With Quote
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I was just reading this morning about an app that is set up to enable you to sue telemarketers. From what i was reading, the hardest part is to get the telemarketer to tell you the company name before you complete a transaction (try it)
This app creates a phoney but valid credit card number for you and creates a record of the attempted transaction identifying the company in the process. It also prepares some of the documentation you need to initiate a suit.

I read this while screwing off at work and was unable to save the article, and now I can't find it..

But from what I'm seeing, there are several apps out there like this..

If I find the original article, I'll post a link


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Posts: 1958 | Location: The Three Lower Counties (Delaware USA) | Registered: 13 September 2001Reply With Quote
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I think the name of the app or program is called RoboRevenge... but I'm still looking for the original article.


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Posts: 1958 | Location: The Three Lower Counties (Delaware USA) | Registered: 13 September 2001Reply With Quote
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That would be nice to know. Thank God for caller I.D. so I never answer them but I would venture to say that 90% of my daily calls are telemarketers. I don't get it. Do they ever really sell anything? Everyone hates them. Never mind, I just answered that one; they sold me a bill of goods. But those robocalls I can't figure out. Where is the profit margin?


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Posts: 17357 | Location: Austin, Texas | Registered: 11 March 2013Reply With Quote
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Norman,
Once upon a time in a past role at work, I had to handle the returned mail for undelivered credit card solicitations.. Literally tons. For a large national mailing, I could easily fill 2 semi's with undeliverable mail.. And that out of maybe a 100 million piece mailing..
From what I was told at the time, and this was in the days of all paper, was that if they got a 2% response rate, that was outstanding and well worth the expense of the mailing. If memory serves me correctly I think 1.3% response was the break even point.

Fast forward to today... emails and robocalls cost only a small fraction of a paper solicitation so I'm gonna guess that the acceptable response rate is significantly lower..

Also note that caller ID is easily faked so don't rely on it.


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Posts: 1958 | Location: The Three Lower Counties (Delaware USA) | Registered: 13 September 2001Reply With Quote
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Norman
I had something quite similar happen to me several years ago.
Thankfully my wife can be a pit bull when necessary and got it reversed.
If my memory serves me correctly, all I did was say yes when he asked me to verify my address & that allowed them to change my phone service.
Now I just hang up.


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Posts: 2786 | Location: Northeast Louisianna | Registered: 06 October 2009Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by NormanConquest:
That would be nice to know. Thank God for caller I.D. so I never answer them but I would venture to say that 90% of my daily calls are telemarketers. I don't get it. Do they ever really sell anything? Everyone hates them. Never mind, I just answered that one; they sold me a bill of goods. But those robocalls I can't figure out. Where is the profit margin?


The obvious answer is for the phone companies to charge a tenth-of-a-cent for every call.
It would be an insignificant increase in the average household phone bill but an insurmountable obstacle to robocallers.


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my wife would still justify it as only a quarter a day.
 
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Tom, why not? We all see all those itemized charges on the back + don't have a clue what they mean. How about the "Universal Fee"? That one is you are being charged to give free cell phones to the welfare recipients. I got that info from National Revue. In the article, they had interviewed one Twanda Jackson that said, " shore, every month when I goes down to gets my entitlements I just grabs me a new one. I must have 30 sitting around here."


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