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Just have to ask, as we have so many Texans here. I first became aware of the "BBQ gun" concept reading John Taffin many years ago. It is above my pay grade to own a worthy example of the genre, but I'd love to drool over somebody else's. If you have pictures or stories, please share!

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Never heard the term Bill. I guess I don't have one.
 
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I have several, but pics are rarer than guns around me.


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I heard the term decades ago. Last week I was hunting in central Texas and asked my friend who owns the ranch if he had ever heard of a barbecue gun.... Never heard or saw one.
Must be a rich rancher thing, for people who don't normally carry a side arm.

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Look to the Double Rifles forum here.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...0101804/m/6341062632


I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills.

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I have my Sunday go to meeting gun with a nice looking holster and matching mag pouch.

A nice SR1011 a nice set of wood grips.

Would qualify as a barbecue gun.

My nickel S@W 19 with its fancy grips would be useful also.
 
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Marcus, thanks for that link. That's what I was talking about. The examples Taffin shows are typically fully engraved Smiths and SAA Colts. Here, he writes about a Texas BBQ edition of a 1911 by Wilson:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/09...t-texas-bbq-special/

Here's another take, involving a Hi-Power.
https://americanhandgunner.com...ra-barbecue-tonight/


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It is my unlearned opinion, that the term "barbecue gun" is from the West Texas area. I've read Taffin's stuff, have read the term in a couple of books by Texas Rangers, all from W Tx. I've lived, and shot in E Texas for over 50 years and have NEVER heard the term used in normal conversations. Of course, you don't have to throw many rocks to hit an ignorant Texan in our area either. Smiler


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Charlie, I tend to think of I-35 as the dividing line of East vs. West Texas, but I may be off, as the true center lies in the Hill Country (and my Texans are San Saba/Abilene/Amarillo/Stinnett). What do you consider East Texas?


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Bill, I think west Texas starts west of Weatherford.
 
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West Texas starts west of Abilene. (West of Big Spring if you want to get picky.)
 
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Are you sure that a BBQ gun is there in case the meat is TOO rare ?? faint
 
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I am reading an absolutely spell binding book about the Comanches, who ruled most of W. Texas, N. M., Col. and Kansas for several centuries. Stories of how bad Apaches were, they were driven S out of their traditional homelands by the Comanches. At any rate, the book more or less divides, "American" settler Texas, and the Comanche homeland "comancheria" E and W of the 98th parallel, which conveniently enough is about where I-35 is today. While I feel the REAL WEST TEXANS are slightly further west, using I-35 as a divide is close enough for government work.

East Texas is kind of easy, if you don't have to THINK about where the nearest tree is, you are in East Texas.


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Gato, care to share the name of the book?


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Charlie, are you reading "Empire of the Summer Moon"? If so, it is a wonderful book indeed.
Speaking of Apaches, I recently learned that both the Apaches and their kin, the Navajo, arrived in the Southwest only about 500 years ago -- from Canada. Their languages are Athabaskan.


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I-35 might be OK if we agree there is no Central Texas.

Call I-35 the dividing line between East and West Texas to anyone from West Texas, and you better get ready to be spit-up on.
 
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Ken, I was thinking more in terms of a cultural divide than a geographical one, if that makes sense.


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Charlie, are you reading "Empire of the Summer Moon"? If so, it is a wonderful book indeed.
Speaking of Apaches, I recently learned that both the Apaches and their kin, the Navajo, arrived in the Southwest only about 500 years ago -- from Canada. Their languages are Athabaskan.


Yes, and it is a great read. The first seven chapters should be required reading for all Texas students and probably most US students. While there are two completely different world views and psychologies at work, it would quickly dispel the concept of the "noble red man".


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In West Virginia, they would call that your "Sunday-go-to-meeting" gun... (Mossbergs and Western auto mostly) LOL

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Yes, and it is a great read. The first seven chapters should be required reading for all Texas students and probably most US students. While there are two completely different world views and psychologies at work, it would quickly dispel the concept of the "noble red man".


I second that thought, after reading it does throw a more accurate light on how thing really were between whites and indians.

During our marriage Lora and I have made trips to Fort Parker outside Mexia (pronounced Mahaya, not MEXia] where Cynthia Ann was taken captive and to the location of the Pease River Battleground where the Texas Rangers rescued{?} her and to Fort Sill to Quanah's grave site.


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Well, based on this thread I got the book from the library and started reading it. Not sure about the "noble savage" stuff though. When you are fighting for your homeland all bets are off. In England when the Romans invaded Britain there was a revolt by the Iceni (sp) tribe led by Boodica. They surrounded several Roman towns and then went in and killed everyone, Romans and Britons alike, men women and children. Churchill, in his "History of the English Speaking Peoples" said words to the following effect:
If it is legitimate to defend your homeland from those who would take it from you, surely it is legitimate to demand a stiff price from those of your own race, who warm their hands at the hearth of the invader!
Damn, that guy had a way with words!
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The "Noble Savage/Redman" concept evolved from people that never had any dealings with actual, Free Ranging Plains Indians.

Yes, it is bad on many levels as to the events perpetrated by both whites and indians during the settling of America, but both sides were guilty of atrocities.

Empire of the Summer Moon simply gives a more fairly balanced account of the actions of both sides.


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That is a great book as well as"Land Of Good Water". Interesting bit about the I 35 corridor. The highway was built to follow the old paths of the wagon trains that in turn were following the paths of the buffalo migration. After the war of northern aggression the freed slaves were allowed 40 acres of siezed land,however the yankees did'nt stipulate what 40 acres,so they were given the land west of I-35 because that is where the divide is between good black dirt/arable land is while to the west it starts all limestone. I know,thats where I live + for years until getting a good garden going it was a nightmare. Oh ,back to the subject,my" BBQ gun"is a custom Keith # 5 w/ full ivory stocks.


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Randy, if you want to share a photo of that lovely barbecue gun of yours, I am sure we would all very much appreciate it.
I will get a copy of "Land of Good Water" and eagerly read it, as my great-great grandfather was murdered in 1856 in neighboring Burnet County.


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Following up: I looked up "Land of Good Water, a History of Williamson County, Texas" on Amazon and they had two used copies by third party sellers at $165 or more.
I went to the Williamson Museum shop and they have it for $25. On its way!
http://williamsonmuseum.org/pr...museum-store/page/2/


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3 books that you may enjoy by Henry Chappell.
Blood Kin
The Calling
Silent We Stood
They are by Henry Chappell. Henry also works with Wyman Meinzer (The Texas State Photographer) on his big books on the famous ranches of Texas.
Henry is a good friend and a serious quail hunter.
 
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Butch, thank you!

http://www.byhenrychappell.com/


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O.K Bill,disregard my P.M. about going to the office + getting you a copy of the book from the source. If you still need it call me + i'll grab you a copy.Really great when you are living right on top of the history. My favorite story was just up the road from me when the Comanches raided a farmhouse in Hopewell.A woman was out riding her horse + saw the smoke + went over + saw the reds doing their travesty.They saw her on the ridge+ started coming but their horses were tired + hers was fresh.She was fixing to take off when she saw this little white girl curled up under the bushes. She told her to get on child + we are out of here. About that time a little black girl comes out of the bushes as well. The woman knows that the horse can't carry 3 + outrun the Comanches so she tells the little black girl,"If you value your life,you best keep up with this horse."She did...must have been Jesse Owens grandma. A lot of personal interest stories like that in there as well as historical info. I recommend it highly.


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I've never heard of a bbq gun. but then I live east of the big river. I lived in OK for a number of years and never heard of one there.
To follow the "logic" of the idea, why isn't there BBQ boots, hats, tooled leather vest, etc? Maybe a Ford 350 super duty with a set of long horns on the front would be a BBQ truck......? Smiler


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Wasbeeman, for what it is worth, there are a bunch of examples of this genre in the collection of the Texas Ranger Museum in Waco.


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Are they referred to as "BBQ whatever"? Or are you talking about the truck. Ive seen a bunch of those (with and without the horns) between Dal and AUS.


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When my son was in high school I bought him a 67 Cadillac that he mounted a set of longhorns to the front.You could see him coming.


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Get a grip kids! The beauty of a revolver (custom made) I have several but then again,those of mine will mine has never been fired Top of the lime?More to follow.


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I cannot imagine owning a rifle/pistol and not shooting it. I understand that some people do that but......?


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I cannot imagine owning a rifle/pistol and not shooting it. I understand that some people do that but......?


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Let me me spout for a sec.While my middle son was in the army in the last shit in the desert.Point on here. I bought a pair of 'NEW" Great Westerns in cosect. ser#',,,never fired,I sent them to Hartford to have ivorys installed.Point being that untiul fired


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FWIW,. my son came home safe. I still have the ivory stocked pair in the safe.


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