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I've been known to carry a flask filled with olive oil and somewhere in my pack in a Ziplok bag there is always a spare (dry) Tee-shirt you'd be amazed how HOT a piece of Olive oil soaked tee-shirt burns!


But then I also normally carry a little military squeezy bottle (military gun oil bottle) of glycerine, as I mix Potassium Permanganate into my Vaseline soaked cotton balls.


Fortunatly I have NEVER needed more than my ZIPPO lighter


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I use dryer lint and Vaseline and it doesn't matter if it's from cotton or synthetic clothes. Works great. But I'm going to put a road flare in my backpack just for fun.
 
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We used to sell three flares in a packet when I was a Boy Scout eons ago for one of our fund raisers, and one of their uses we would tell our potential customers, (besides for car accidents, etc.) was just that-starting a fire when all else failed and hell and nature with all of their fury had come to visit. In the story at the beginning of this thread, it is obvious why the flare worked best. Big Grin
 
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Love the flare, idea. Would be perfect for that true tough to light emergency.

Four normal fire starter, I just add a few hoppes oil soak cotton patches to my gun maintenance kit and use them.


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Fatwood?
It burns with a match, keeps dry naturally and self sustaining flame.
A necklace made of a leather thong or paracord that has a small knife and a Ferro rod with a chunk of fatwood is a bushcraft starter kit. With those items, you can survive a lot of situations. Wrap the knife handle with fishing line to get fancy. Magnesium and ferro rod combo works well too but I love fatwood. Ever soak a charcoal briquette in wax? Pine sap and sawdust is a fire paste extraordinaire as well. Find some pine sap and mix with dust from scraping wood with your knife.


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This last elk season I came across a quality way to get a fire going even in rain and wind. Generally for campground use. Have some kindling split lengthwise to about 1/2" thick, then additional kindling in increasing thicknesses up to firewood size. Now the new part: before you strike any matches take two of the pieces of kindling that are about 1" in diameter and a foot long. Dip them in a can of gasoline, and after a few seconds, remove. Wave them a bit so to vent off the most volatile part of the fumes (which should be minimal due to the cold weather. then place a few dry sticks on the ground for a base, lay the gas dipped sticks on top follow with the small kindling and increase pile with the increasingly larger kindling. Then with one of those long necked BBQ lighters, reach in and light the gas dipped kindling. there may be a slight woosh, but if you didn't overdo it with the dipping, the gas should be just sufficient to get the wood going and generate enough heat to move the flame into the remainder of the wood.
 
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I use the lint from the household dryer or washer, not sure which, my wife saves it for me...cotton or whatever its worked for years, probably a mix??


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I pack a road flare for a last ditch emergency use.

Cotton balls with Vaseline works well and a small film container of them is in my fire kit.

My preferred starter is cotton dryer lint. What I add to it is magnesium shavings. I take one of those Magnesium fire starters that are way too bulky and shave it down with a coarse file and then toss it in a double zip loc bag with the lint and then get it all worked together. Lights quickly and burns hot.

I am never without 3 ways to ignite a fire marches, lighter and Ferro rod plus 1 flare as a last ditch back up. I always carry the cotton balls and impregnated dryer lint.

I prefer to start a fire without aids if I can but the weather plays a role in that decision. I keep a small stuff sack in the water bottle pocket if my pouch and at rest stops I try and find god fire starting g material like dried grass and small dry twigs.


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Another good starter was Mautz Fire Paste.

That stuff always lit off quickly and burned hot.


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Strike anywhere matches in a waterproof match safe and a plumbers candle have worked for me for years, even in high winds. But a road flare would work too but it’s pretty heavy for a single use item to carry around all the time far from any road which is likely when you will really need it.


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I take empty toilet paper spool and cut it down to half length. I flute one end of the half spool and fold the flutes in so that it will stand up. I fill it with saw dust. I place several of these in a paint roller tray and pour melted candle wax on them. It will be about the size of a golf ball and burns a pretty good while when you lite it.
 
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There is always a yellow or white birch within a few feet. There is no need to carry anything more than a butane lighter.

Youngsters get trained on getting a fire going with one match. And the chance to prove their ability in real woods surroundings.
 
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I don't have birch in my area but there are many many ways to start fires. Thing is, practice a bunch of them.


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Originally posted by hacksawtom:
A couple years ago I was hunting for elk in a blizzard. I came upon three hunters in danger of hypothermia trying to start a fire. They used up the fuel in their lighters and all their matches. They tried their commercial fire starting aids but due the the wind, no luck. I pulled my old stand by out of my pack, got rid of their twig tee pee, got large limbs and had them a roaring fire within a couple of minutes.

My old stand by? Road flare! Cold hands don't work so well but a road flare never fails. Thought I'd pass it on.


For wet wood coastal areas 12 ounce beer or pop can 1/2 full of gas lay it on its side opening towards top light it will produce flame for 15 plus mintutes on 6 ounces of gas enough to dry out wet wood. In Alaska coastal waters you can usually find a can and gas may save your life.


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