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Obamas Minions Takes A Shot at Hunters

NSSF Calls Foul On USFWS Director's Parting Shot On Traditional Ammunition

NEWTOWN, Conn. -- The National Shooting Sports Foundation® (NSSF®), the trade association for the firearms, ammunition, hunting and shooting sports industries, condemned the decision by U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Director Dan Ashe banning the use of traditional ammunition on Service lands in just five years.

The parting shot, Director's Order 219, was issued on the final full day of President Obama's administration. The last-minute action revives an effort the administration undertook eight years ago to ban the use of traditional ammunition.

"This directive is irresponsible and driven not out of sound science but unchecked politics," said Lawrence Keane, NSSF senior vice president and general counsel. "The timing alone is suspect. This directive was published without dialogue with industry, sportsmen and conservationists. The next director should immediately rescind this, and instead create policy based upon scientific evidence of population impacts with regard to the use of traditional ammunition."

The order requires several initiatives to go into effect immediately. Regional Directors are to work with state agencies to ban the use of traditional ammunition. It also ends the use of traditional ammunition on Federal land, including National Parks, tribal lands and national wildlife refuges in order to mirror policies in states where traditional ammunition is already restricted. The order "expeditiously" bans traditional ammunition "when available information indicates" that lead is harmful to wildlife, without requirement of a scientific threshold on which to base that action.

It also requires creation of a timeline to restrict traditional ammunition for dove and upland bird hunting.

BS Order Here https://www.fws.gov/policy/do219.html

Just typical for this departing administration. The most spiteful, divisive bunch I've ever experienced.
Hopefully our incoming administration will listen to "we the people" instead of ruling us with the "we know better than you do " attitude.

Another just thing for Trump to over turn.

Remember his name; he will turn up else where, as they always do.

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Another just thing for Trump to over turn.

They seem to think that lead comes from Mars, or the moon. It's more concentrated, but it came from the earth where it rests.

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Another just thing for Trump to over turn.

Another reason he was voted in.

Grizz

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Just typical for this departing administration. The most spiteful, divisive bunch I've ever experienced.
Hopefully our incoming administration will listen to "we the people" instead of ruling us with the "we know better than you do " attitude.

You said a mouthful there pardner and in my 69 years of seeing many come and go I have to agree with you 100%!

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Remember his name; he will turn up else where, as they always do.

Naturally. Dont expect a Statist Liberal to go away quietly with class and dignity. They just like to act like they are the adults in the room, but their actions always suggest otherwise. Just look at the turds raising hell in the streets as we speak. On inauguration day! Probably more George Sorros, paid to riot astro-turf. I have zero respect for any of them.

On B Rocko Bama's return from his California vacation he will be living in a walled house in DC, so that he can be near the action and available for misdeeds.

And he left a lot of dirty trails behind. So The T can call him up and say hey you want to do some talking. I can do a LOT of talking. You get my drift.

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Last minute regulations irk me as much as the next guy, but only if they have any real impact.

The policy says "It is the Service’s policy to:
a. Require the use of nontoxic ammunition and fishing tackle to the fullest extent practicable for all activities on Service lands, waters, and facilities by January 2022, except as needed for law enforcement or health and safety uses, as provided for in policy."

And the last line says "This Order is effective immediately. It remains in effect until we incorporate it into the Fish and Wildlife Service Manual, or until we amend, supersede, or revoke it, whichever comes first. If we do not amend, supersede, or revoke it, the provisions of this Order will terminate on July 31, 2018."

So it isn't phased in completely until 2022, but expires in August 2018 unless it is codified by the new administration. Knowing how slow the government works, I'm not getting my knickers in a twist...

Refuges and other federal lands were directed over 15 years ago to restrict the use of lead shot where possible - so this is nothing new.

The actual impact is to the staff working on Service lands, who are required to use non-toxic ammunition to kill trapped hogs, etc. - and this directive came down several months ago.

Dave

What little respect I had for the Obamas has totally disappeared. What a jerk.


BH63

http://www.washingtonexaminer....lers/article/2616278



Day 1: Interior's Zinke welcomes back hunters, shooters, anglers

By PAUL BEDARD (@SECRETSBEDARD) • 3/2/17 2:04 PM

On his first day as the new Interior secretary, Ryan Zinke reached out to hunters, target shooters and anglers by removing the last minute Obama ban on lead used to make traditional bullets and fishing weights.

"Outdoor recreation is about both our heritage and our economy. Between hunting, fishing, motorized recreation, camping and more, the industry generates thousands of jobs and billions of dollars in economic activity," said Zinke in a statement Thursday.

He also opened the door to outdoors enthusiasts to help form policy on public lands.

"Over the past eight years however, hunting, and recreation enthusiasts have seen trails closed and dramatic decreases in access to public lands across the board. It worries me to think about hunting and fishing becoming activities for the landowning elite. This package of secretarial orders will expand access for outdoor enthusiasts and also make sure the community's voice is heard," he added.



The Obama administration put a ban on lead on federal land despite urgings from outdoors groups for more study.

In his order, that's exactly what Zinke called for. The signing ceremony was attended by several influential in the outdoors sports world, including Chris W. Cox, the head of the National Rifle Association's legislative arm.

The praise from those who use cheaper lead bullets, for example, was swift.

"Secretary Zinke's rapid response to the previous administration's parting shot on hunters, target shooters and anglers demonstrates the true friend and common sense solutions we can expect from the Department of the Interior," said Lawrence G. Keane, senior vice president of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which represents manufacturers.

"The timing of the traditional ammunition ban on federal lands tells you everything you need to know about the decision. Likewise, the decisive action by Secretary Zinke tells you what you need to know and what we can expect from an Interior Secretary who himself is a hunter, angler and outdoor sportsman," he added.


Cox, executive director of NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, said, "The Obama administration failed to consult with state fish and wildlife agencies or national angling and hunting organizations in issuing this order. This was not a decision based on sound scientific evidence — it was a last second attack on traditional ammunition and our hunting heritage."

He added, "The fact is that traditional ammunition does not pose a significant population-level risk for wildlife. On behalf of the five million members of the NRA and tens of millions of American sportsmen, we thank Secretary Zinke for eliminating this arbitrary attack on our hunting heritage."

Zinke also showed is support for outdoors enthusiasts by reestablishing former President George W. Bush's Wildlife and Hunting Heritage Conservation Council which gave sportsmen and women a role in outdoors policies.

Paul Bedard, the Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist, can be contacted at pbedard@washingtonexaminer.com

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Another just thing for Trump to over turn.

Just as I predicted.

And on his first day as Secretary of Interior, Ryan Zinke slam dunks Obama and Dan Ashe!

We've finally got a Secretary of Interior who is a friend of hunters. Because he is one of us.