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When I hunted with Samaras two years ago I was told he had to pay for 60% of his quota whether he shot it or not. Doesn't this put pressure on operators to shoot lions? | ||
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I thought it was 40% (Aaron knows for sure) but you are right. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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AAZ - Yes, as I recall its 40% in TZ. But, either way, that's 40% - 60% of their TOTAL quota. Which certainly leaves room for NOT shooting every lion you have on quota, simply because you can. | |||
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Aaron, Not to get technical, but it does matter, do they pay 50% (avg) towards each individual lion tag, or do they pay 50% of the total number of lion tags? see below: PH X gets 5 lion tags @ $5k each (total), he pays gov't $12,500.00 (50%). If payment goes towards the aggregate he only has to successfully fill 2-3 of the tags to cover his principle investment. If payment is specific to the animal (i.e. $2,500 towards each tag), he has to fill all 5 or he will be in the hole. Am I thinking about that right? If so, what is the answer? | |||
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505 - Like I said, as I understand it, its 40% of the TOTAL ANIMAL QUOTA. So, if there total animal quota bill would be $200,000 per year (just an example), the operator has to pay $80,000.00, regardless of how much he actually shoots. He could shoot ZERO lions, and he still pays $80K, but he could also shoot 100% of his sable, 80% of his eland, 80% of his buffalo, etc, etc, and easily make up the difference. Now in Zim Nat parks areas its different, they are responsible for 100% payment of their quota. So yes, that is a considering factor. One I am aware of, and one that we are working on a solution to at the moment. | |||
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Correctly stated - an outfitter need only target his key species on quota (greater antelopes and buffalo)and achieve the required minimum 40% without touching the cats. Shoot an elephant or two and he's safe as houses as ele do not have an established quota per block but count towards utilization of the same- call it a bonus! | |||
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Fujo,  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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