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I know people bitch about blaser. But after owning blaser r8 I doubt I will buy another rifle other than a blaser k95 or blaser r8. Maybe an anchultz 1727 in 17 hmr.

I took a blaser professional success in 6.5 creedmoor match barrel with a blaser scope.

I shot one round. Then broken down the rifle - taking off scope, taking off barrel, taking off trigger, taking off bolt housing and finally taking off the bolt head.

I then reassembled the rifle and shot again.

I repeated the break down process 4 times.

I shot a 5 round group of .85 inches. And I was not shooting great today. It was 98 degrees.

Simply amazing engineering where a scope can be taken off and rifle disassembled over and over again and shooting same point of impact and shooting 5 round sub 1 inch groups.


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I was also shooting cheap federal non typical ammo I picked up at academy before going to the range.

Now everyone can go back to hating blasers Wink

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Still ugly. dancing
 
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They are the most accurate and reliable out of the box rifles in existence.

Bar none.

Oh, yeah. One more thing as for beliefs about ugliness.

I’ll quote Mencken on religion:

“We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.“


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Blaser owners remind me of queers "coming out"!

Who cares!

They have a lack of stability in their lives, and they crave attention! rotflmo


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Blaser owners remind me of queers "coming out"!

Who cares!

They have a lack of stability in their lives, and they crave attention! rotflmo


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Saeed, you have once again managed to get things completely upside down and backwards with your odd psychologizing.

Blaser owners do not seek drama or attention. We seek only reliability and accuracy.

Those virtues are not exciting at all.

Quite the opposite.

Surely you must know that delivering one bullet after another precisely when and where intended is a very dull and boring thing.


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Strange. I've been shooting and hunting for almost 50 years. Never have I been in a position where I must disassemble a firearm, reassemble it, and then be forced to take a cold bore shot.

Is this sort of bizarre behavior common among Blaser owners? If so, it would explain a lot.


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I know people bitch about blaser. But after owning blaser r8 I doubt I will buy another rifle other than a blaser k95 or blaser r8. Maybe an anchultz 1727 in 17 hmr.

I took a blaser professional success in 6.5 creedmoor match barrel with a blaser scope.

I shot one round. Then broken down the rifle - taking off scope, taking off barrel, taking off trigger, taking off bolt housing and finally taking off the bolt head.

I then reassembled the rifle and shot again.

I repeated the break down process 4 times.

I shot a 5 round group of .85 inches. And I was not shooting great today. It was 98 degrees.

Simply amazing engineering where a scope can be taken off and rifle disassembled over and over again and shooting same point of impact and shooting 5 round sub 1 inch groups.


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I was also shooting cheap federal non typical ammo I picked up at academy before going to the range.

Now everyone can go back to hating blasers Wink

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I get those same results with mine.
 
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Mike does know that we have rifles that shoot 0.02” !

That is trying our best to actually measure the group! rotflmo


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they are still an over engineered fugly POS regardless whether they are broken or whole
 
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Like many of you, I have 100+ rifles in my gun room. I shoot most of them now and then.

That being said - my Blaser R8 is what goes with me all over the world chasing my dreams...

I carry two barrels and a scope for each and I love the breakdown and compact rifle case.

But most of all - I have confidence in the rifle and my ability using the rifle!


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Mike does know that we have rifles that shoot 0.02” !

That is trying our best to actually measure the group! rotflmo


True

You spend hours and hours and years and years and know everything about rifles, reloading, shooting and even now making bullets at home.

I know nothing relative to you.

But with my blaser I can shoot 95-97 percent as well and only need a 5mm Allen wrench to swap barrels, Mount new scopes, swap trigger, swap stocks, ect.

And I know you sneak in late at night and shoot your blasers dancing

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For those who remember German claw mount scopes, one could easily travel the globe with the scope detached, remount the scope and still maintain sub MOA accuracy. Seems Blaser still has a lot to learn in that department.

New Germans... Roll Eyes


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I am going to come in with 2 cents....

In my gun roon I have rifles that date from 1907, that I enjoy shooting. I have Mauser 98s and Mauser 66s. I have a couple of Rigbys, some Austrian rifles and one Blaser R8 Professional. I enjoy shooting them all.

IMO the modern Blaser is a oiece of engineering genius, whether you want to disassemble it five, six or a dozen times or just use it as is. Its reliable, its flexible, its a modern 21st C rifle that is pushing the boundries, which I think is great.

I just hope todays youth - that all sport Blasers - one day appreciate the finer points of 19th and 20th century gunmakers and do not condemn all my / our "old" guns to the scrap yard!

Thank heavens for variety and the wide selection on offer! It allows us to bitch, argue and debate on AR jumping jumping

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Let them get a little grit in their precious, over-engineered, precision actions and they will get a quick education into the genius of the Mauser/Winchester action.

Blaser is a solution for a problem that didn't exist.


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I love how it always seems to be those who don't own and shoot and hunt with Blasers that criticize them.

We Blaser owners all seem to be very happy with them. But of course we only own and use and hunt with them, so we could be all wrong.


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I love how it always seems to be those who don't own and shoot and hunt with Blasers that criticize them.

We Blaser owners all seem to be very happy with them. But of course we only own and use and hunt with them, so we could be all wrong.


Funny but true. Opus cant afford a sig pistol bitches about a blaser Big Grin

Last time I checked my new 300 Norma mag barrel it had 100,000 plus serial number. There is no shortage of blaser owners around the world. The r8 is 100k plus in production and will be around for a long time.

Also the r8 sets a high standard for another gun to beat for me. Thinking of getting a 6.5 creedmoor in SAKO TRG 22. But if it does not shoot as good as my blaser I will be disappointed.

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I love how it always seems to be those who don't own and shoot and hunt with Blasers that criticize them.

We Blaser owners all seem to be very happy with them. But of course we only own and use and hunt with them, so we could be all wrong.



I also love how Blaser owners think that those of us who do not like Blasers don't have lots of experience with them. There is a reason why many do not like Blasers - it's call experience, well, and taste.

But I am tickled that you like them.


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I know nothing relative to you.

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You know next to nothing compared to 98% of hunters out there. A fool and his money are soon parted.........

There are a slew of rifles that will shoot as well as any Blaser. GAP, McWhorter, Hill Country Rifles, LaRue, customs with Defiance, Bighorn, AI actions, just to name a few.

Keep trying though Beretta, we realize you're doing the best you can.
 
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I know nothing relative to you.

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You know next to nothing compared to 98% of hunters out there. A fool and his money are soon parted.........

There are a slew of rifles that will shoot as well as any Blaser. GAP, McWhorter, Hill Country Rifles, LaRue, customs with Defiance, Bighorn, AI actions, just to name a few.

Keep trying though Beretta, we realize you're doing the best you can.


So... in a single sentence you determined that all of us that own a Blaser product are fools..

Small minds..........


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Anyone who represents that Blaser rifles are the most prefect shooting or hunting rifle in existence is a fool. Roll it around in the dirt a bit then see how it functions. I've had a handful of well healed guys who hunt (a far cry from real hunters who happened to be well healed) come into camp proclaiming the same thing. They were proven wrong in short order.

That clown Beretta thinks long range is 300m.
 
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Anyone who represents that Blaser rifles are the most prefect shooting or hunting rifle in existence is a fool. Roll it around in the dirt a bit then see how it functions. I've had a handful of well healed guys who hunt (a far cry from real hunters who happened to be well healed) come into camp proclaiming the same thing. They were proven wrong in short order.



That clown Beretta thinks long range is 300m.



I’m just another contented Blaser owner who enjoys hunting. I’m trying to understand what sort of person rolls their firearms in the mud whether deliberately or accidentally.
It’s a bit like saying push feed actions don’t work so well upside down ??
Personally I’ve yet to meet an unhappy Blaser owner so I’m mystified as to why those that don’t own one need to tell the rest of us how we should feel about our choice.
Apparently many horse owners felt the same about early motor car enthusiasts.
 
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I give a rip how you feel about your Blaser personally. If you haven't gotten a rifle dirty, sandy, dusty, etc while hunting then you haven't hunted much.
 
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Anyone who represents that Blaser rifles are the most prefect shooting or hunting rifle in existence is a fool. Roll it around in the dirt a bit then see how it functions. I've had a handful of well healed guys who hunt (a far cry from real hunters who happened to be well healed) come into camp proclaiming the same thing. They were proven wrong in short order.

That clown Beretta thinks long range is 300m.



I would ask who is the REAL "clown"....

- The guy who joins AR and in less that 60 days and 28 posts is calling people "clowns and fools that don"t hunt much"

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Those members that happen own and hunt with a specific manufacturers firearm which in this case happens to be a Blaser product...


I think the answer is clear....

Psychology teaches that when someone resorts to name calling, it usually speaks to feelings of inferiority and a feeling of inadequacy of the person doing the name calling.


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I give a rip how you feel about your Blaser personally. If you haven't gotten a rifle dirty, sandy, dusty, etc while hunting then you haven't hunted much.


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Anyone who represents that Blaser rifles are the most prefect shooting or hunting rifle in existence is a fool. Roll it around in the dirt a bit then see how it functions. I've had a handful of well healed guys who hunt (a far cry from real hunters who happened to be well healed) come into camp proclaiming the same thing. They were proven wrong in short order.

That clown Beretta thinks long range is 300m.



I would ask who is the REAL "clown"....

- The guy who joins AR and in less that 60 days and 28 posts is calling people "clowns and fools that don"t hunt much"

---------- OR -----------

Those members that happen own and hunt with a specific manufacturers firearm which in this case happens to be a Blaser product...


I think the answer is clear....

Psychology teaches that when someone resorts to name calling, it usually speaks to feelings of inferiority and a feeling of inadequacy of the person doing the name calling.


This is same guy Jgraider.

I asked Saeed Ifnhe banned him. Saeed said no.

So we have

(1) someone so stupid they forgot their ar password after 1000s of posts.

(2) someone so pathetic he did not have the guts to email Saeed and ask for his old password.

(3) a complete insecure loser that he creates a second account and trolls.

(4) so gutless he cannot acknowledge who he his.

But his old legacy was insulting everyone, claiming to be a retired baseball player (and if he played baseball he was probably too stupid to understand how his stats were calculated) and claimed to have greater expertise in optics than Hans Udo Bender.

Trolls and anonymous poster attract the most insecure failures in life. The internet trolling provides some comfort to their otherwise useless life.

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I love how it always seems to be those who don't own and shoot and hunt with Blasers that criticize them.

We Blaser owners all seem to be very happy with them. But of course we only own and use and hunt with them, so we could be all wrong.


Mike,

That is not true for me.I have several Blaser rifles here.I have not bought a single one of them.

All I got from friends, or through exchanges for rifles I have made.

Frankly, I don't like any of what I think is just p[lain sill "improvements" the bloody Germans seem think about by changing to utterly horrid designs.

Straight bot pull. Silly, and dangerous locking mechanism.

Mauser tried it.

They also had another stupid design - moving action!

I have seen a Blaser lover screw his hunt up so much we had throat and stomach aches for the rest of the day of laughter!

A Blaser is one of two makers who I have had trouble with their rifles having barrels far too small.

he other one was BRNO.

The Blaser was a 375H&H magnum.

Rifle would blow primers on factory ammo.

And I discovered this after finding the fired bullets in or sand trap, and seeing the groove engraving on it.

Made some bullets for him way undersize than normal, and worked fine.

Same goes for the BRNO.

t was in 243 Winchester, and again, was blowing primers with factory ammo, and starting loads.

Did not have my CNC lathe at that time to make special size bullets for my friend.

So we did the next best thing.

We modified a bullet sizing die, so we can squeeze .243 bullets down.

Cannot remember the actual size, but it might have been down to 0.235 or there abouts.

Funny thing is I have never come across an American made rifle having any of these problems.

Lots of the little Austrian and Italian factories do have them.

I build a lot of rifles, and my preferred European action is SAKO.

The best made rifles in Europe.

The Germans make very accurate rifles, but sadly let down by stupid unusability for me.

I have a rifle made by KEPPELER from Germany.

It is in 338 Lapua Magnum.

It is horrible.

Funny straight stock.

One needs to take the stock off to get the bolt out.

It has the most vicious muzzle brake I have ever come across.

I wear both ear plugs, and ear muffs when I shoot here.

With that one, it actually becomes painful shooting it.

The muzzle brake slats point backwards, and blast everything to the side and you as the shooter.

No wonder its owner gave it to me.

Give me a normal bolt action rifle any day.


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Saeed can tell if Grubbs is JGRaider -or at least tell us the IP addresses are the same.

If someone loves a Blaser, great. But if they truly were the most accurate action competitive shooters would be using them.


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Saeed, I cannot understand any of that. Especially the .375 part.

I have also heard you criticize Hirtenberger ammunition, and I cannot explain that, either.

I have three Blaser R93s in .375 H&H Mag. (and also .338 Win. Mag., .308 Win., 7mm Rem. Mag., .25-06 Rem., etc. - you know how those Blasers are), and all shoot sub-MOA with just about everything they are fed and no issues whatsoever.

The .375 combo loves the Hirtenberger 272 grain ABC bullet loading. One hole groups.

I have carried that rifle all over Africa, and that rifle and the others, in all calibers and configurations, all over the world, with great success and zero problems.

So, as the old saying about eyewitnesses goes, who am I supposed to believe, your experience, or my own eyes?


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Beretta, you go girl.......the more you try to be relevant in this domain, the more you fail....it's pure gold.
 
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I would ask who is the REAL "clown"....

- The guy who joins AR and in less that 60 days and 28 posts is calling people "clowns and fools that don"t hunt much"

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Those members that happen own and hunt with a specific manufacturers firearm which in this case happens to be a Blaser product...


I think the answer is clear....

Psychology teaches that when someone resorts to name calling, it usually speaks to feelings of inferiority and a feeling of inadequacy of the person doing the name calling.



Doesn't take long at all to figure out who knows what they're doing, and who the pretenders are.
 
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I give a rip how you feel about your Blaser personally. If you haven't gotten a rifle dirty, sandy, dusty, etc while hunting then you haven't hunted much.


I think rolling a rifle in the mud is something pigs and grubs do.
Oh, I see I got that right but just a b short.
 
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Anyone who represents that Blaser rifles are the most prefect shooting or hunting rifle in existence is a fool. Roll it around in the dirt a bit then see how it functions. I've had a handful of well healed guys who hunt (a far cry from real hunters who happened to be well healed) come into camp proclaiming the same thing. They were proven wrong in short order.

That clown Beretta thinks long range is 300m.


I think the fool typed the above note.
I have used them in tough places. They work. I have not had an issue. I have issues with Winchester Model 70's twice. I still shoot the M70, but am not taking it on dangerous game.
 
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I would ask who is the REAL "clown"....

- The guy who joins AR and in less that 60 days and 28 posts is calling people "clowns and fools that don"t hunt much"

---------- OR -----------

Those members that happen own and hunt with a specific manufacturers firearm which in this case happens to be a Blaser product...


I think the answer is clear....

Psychology teaches that when someone resorts to name calling, it usually speaks to feelings of inferiority and a feeling of inadequacy of the person doing the name calling.



Doesn't take long at all to figure out who knows what they're doing, and who the pretenders are.


Look in the mirror....
 
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Beretta, you go girl.......the more you try to be relevant in this domain, the more you fail....it's pure gold.


I really hope you are not Jgraider. You are just a worthless troll jgraider hunted some nice mule deers.

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Beretta, you go girl.......the more you try to be relevant in this domain, the more you fail....it's pure gold.


I really hope you are not Jgraider. You are just a worthless troll jgraider hunted some nice mule deers.

Mike


Grubbs and JGraider are the same person.

And as we do not allow a stupid idiot to talk to himself on the forums by using two IDs, both are banned.

Childish behavior.


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A Blaser may be accurate, but what about the shooter.

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Very true - I have many rifles that are capable of much more than I can get out of them!


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Very true - I have many rifles that are capable of much more than I can get out of them!


Very true but my blasers outshoot all my other rifles. I probably bias the scale by having my best scopes on my blaser barrels.

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