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OK. dpcd mentioned on another thread, that Ruger will make any rifle you want, if you will order 100 rifles.

Assuming a Ruger African model, like the Lipsey's recent releases, what caliber would you choose?

They have currently made three: 275 Rigby, 6.5x55, and 9.3x62.

They will announce their 2020 caliber soon. What would be your wish?

Mine? 35 Whelen, 338-06, 358 Norma Mag., 318 WR...

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In the Africa without the muzzle brake or no deal:

35 Whelen 1:12 twist,
I would like to se the .333 Jeffery, but that is not viable,
220Swift,
9.3x66/370 Sako
 
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In the Africa without the muzzle brake or no deal:

35 Whelen 1:12 twist,
I would like to se the .333 Jeffery, but that is not viable,
220Swift,
9.3x66/370 Sako


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I like your choices! tu2
 
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if they done the 275 again I could get more Hornady cases.
 
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338 Federal, 338'06


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35 Whelen
405 Win
303 Brit
 
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Since no one will do a 350 Rigby, the 35 Whelen would be an excellent stand-in. Just make the barrel 25”...please....
 
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I'm glad to see all this renewed interest in the 35 Whelen. It was a bit of a sleeper there for a while.


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Since no one will do a 350 Rigby, the 35 Whelen would be an excellent stand-in. Just make the barrel 25”...please....


And a 1 in 12 twist horse


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I like Palladin8's choices except I would replace the Whelen with my old favorite .318 express. I would also buy the African in the classic .303 in a heartbeat!


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A 405 & 303? Rimmed rounds in a bolt action?

I know it can be done (LeeEnfield), but should it be done? Again?

Interesting choices...
 
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I would buy one in .358 Norma.


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I have a 405 Win on a 03 action that works quite well. Mauser made slant magazine 98's for the 303 and the Siamese Mauser. Lets not forget the P-14 Enfield action in 303. Even Winchester made Model 54's in 30/30. Rimmed cartridges are not that big an issue in a bolt gun, but they have little attraction for the masses, being for the most part, lower pressure, less "powerful" non-magnum rounds.
I cannot think of anything more "African" than the old 303 British and as said, would buy the Ruger so chambered, in a minute!


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I'd also vote for .35 Whelen, or .338-06. Very useful mediums.


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.404 weighing nine pounds and straight bolt handle.
 
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35 whelen. 1/12 twist. 25” barrel. Yep.


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21" 358 winchester, stainless, no brake


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Since no one will do a 350 Rigby, the 35 Whelen would be an excellent stand-in. Just make the barrel 25”...please....


I would have adds the 350 Rigby instead of the 9.3x66 Sako, but Ruger would never hog the action out of the Model 77 Hawkeye (30/06 length and bolt diameter 573) to fit a 350 Rigby.

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400 Whelen?


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I have a 405 Win on a 03 action that works quite well. Mauser made slant magazine 98's for the 303 and the Siamese Mauser. Lets not forget the P-14 Enfield action in 303. Even Winchester made Model 54's in 30/30. Rimmed cartridges are not that big an issue in a bolt gun, but they have little attraction for the masses, being for the most part, lower pressure, less "powerful" non-magnum rounds.
I cannot think of anything more "African" than the old 303 British and as said, would buy the Ruger so chambered, in a minute!


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A few of you have mentioned the 35 Whelen in 1:12 twist. Now that Ruger has recently made both their single shot No. 1 and their Hawkeye bolts with 1:12 Whelens, it would be no problem for them to make an African with that twist.

Hey Lipsey's.....!!!
 
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I have many Whelens, but only (1) 338-06.

A Ruger African Lipsey's special in 338-06 would be, well, special!

Nosler makes (6) different loads for this round: 180, 200, 225, & 250 grs.
 
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I have a 405 Win on a 03 action that works quite well. Mauser made slant magazine 98's for the 303 and the Siamese Mauser. Lets not forget the P-14 Enfield action in 303. Even Winchester made Model 54's in 30/30. Rimmed cartridges are not that big an issue in a bolt gun, but they have little attraction for the masses, being for the most part, lower pressure, less "powerful" non-magnum rounds.
I cannot think of anything more "African" than the old 303 British and as said, would buy the Ruger so chambered, in a minute!


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The 2020 Lipsey’s exclusive model will most likely be 35 Whelen.

I would like a 9lb, 24” barreled, no break, fixed “V” rear sight 416 Ruger.


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318 WR to complement my double.
 
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30-40 Mauser? Challenge accepted. I will design it up.
You guys are all over the map. Remember, the buy has to be all the exact same thing to allow for economy of scale production.
 
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......You guys are all over the map. Remember, the buy has to be all the exact same thing to allow for economy of scale production.


Seems to me that a Ruger “African Model” needs to be done in a typical African medium game calibre? No?

So...... .318 WR would be a Hail Mary play, but so classic.
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30-40 Mauser? Challenge accepted. I will design it up.
You guys are all over the map. Remember, the buy has to be all the exact same thing to allow for economy of scale production.


35 whelen - 23" barrel, stainless, no brake

I could be talked into a 7x64 or 280, just as easy


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If they do the 35 Whelen on the African without the brake, please, I suggest a heavier barrel contour like on the first generation African 9.3x62 instead of the lighter profile used on the most recent 9.3x62.

Same for the impossibly long shot 9.3x66.
 
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OK Ruger will make any rifle you want,

Nothing personal here folks, but if it's made by Ruger, I don't want it.


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Actually, I prefer the lighter contour barrel on the current Lipsey's 9.3x62. But that's just me.
 
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OK Ruger will make any rifle you want,

Nothing personal here folks, but if it's made by Ruger, I don't want it.


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I have not held either model but would prefer light and lithe I think. Especially Chasing down a herd of buffalo as it were. I have never done that but have ran up into an elk herd to create confusion. It worked.


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I honestly believe he heavier contour adds about 3/4 of a pound only.
 
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21-22” 9.3x57


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THIS
https://www.gunsinternational....cfm?gun_id=101076753

in stainless


#dumptrump

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I would buy one in 318WR too!
Of course, 24" barrel, express sights, no brake, proper twist and the assurance that Hornady was supporting with brass and bullets.


With an MSRP of $1279 for standard Rugers and Lipsey's specials (they have 9.3x62 on their site now), what do you think the order price would be?
Maybe $850-$1K?
 
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I honestly believe he heavier contour adds about 3/4 of a pound only.


Speaking only for myself, that is 3/4 lb. that I would not like/want on a 35 Whelen or 9.3x62.

And again, we are all individuals, so what one person would hope for, another may not appreciate.

However, some bigger calibers have been mentioned on this thread like 358 Norma Mag. & 404 Jeffery, and I would agree for those rounds, I would appreciate a heavier rifle. beer
 
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Huv; yes the quantity price is in that range, but since we have no two requests alike, let alone the numbers we need for an order, the whole thing is moot.
Maybe some don't want a Ruger product but I, and many others, find them quite good at what they do. I am still shooting tang safety ones.....now antiques.
I personally would get them in 10.75x68 and then I will make reloading die sets so everyone will have them. With that much demand, we can get Starline to make brass for us.
(A .404 is out; that would require their magnum action; whole nother ball game.)
 
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I take the thread as not actually soliciting a group buy, but what we would like to see from the Ruger/Lipsey exclusive partnership. That maybe my faulting comprehension skills.

That said an African without a muzzle brake in 35 Whelen 1 and 12 twist with 24 inch barrels seems to be the consensus of the group. Maybe Hornady could do a joint thing and being out a 275 grain load. They use to make a 275 grain bullet.

The secondary choice seems to be the 318 WR.

A better question maybe let’s assume one hundred members would send a check for a 35 Whelen African without the brake and 1:12 inch twist, how do we go about setting up the logistics of such buy.

SureFire: We cannot agree about everything. I like a little heavier contour, but that is just taste. Neither is wrong,

I did not think about the 10.75x68. That is a great idea.
 
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