With the 300 H&H and a 180gr bullet what velocities do yall try to achieve?
May factory Fed Premium Partitions run about 2,950 fps, my hand loads are low 3,000.
I've never felt as though the H&H needed to be a hot rod.
Thoughts?

Perry

I just started messing around with the old girl again trying some of the newer powders. In a 24" barrel RL26/180 went a bit over 3200fps with best accuracy a bit under 3200, but so far groups are about double the size of the old 1/2" favorite at c.3000fps with RL22. Accuracy beats speed, but having both isn't a bad thing.

Ive never had any trouble getting 3020 fps with a 180 Woodleigh or Nosler partition or even considerably more in my old Win. pre war mod. 70 but the 3020 fps was my accuracy load at 1/2" for 5....

Contrary to those who claim the 300 H&H just barely beats the 30-06, those guys are just repeating what they read in some gun magazine, not from a chronograph..The old H&H will come within a 100 fps of the 300 wby with a number of loads..I have two chronographs and played with both a lot over the years, and my 300 H&H killed its share of buffalo with the 220 Nosler partition for me and a couple of locals to whom I lent it too..and it never seems to jam with that sloping case...cases do stretch if you full length resize however. but neck sized cases last and function very well.

You may think Im a prejudice fan of the 300 H&H and if so your 100% correct! You can also apply that prejudice to the 30-06 my all time favorite caliber..

I like my 180 grain Nosler Accubonds at 2960 from the 24" barrel of my Sako. This about matches the original claimed velocity of the H&H and is plenty for my purposes.

However, a few trials (one of them somewhat accidental) have shown me that I can get 3000+ fps velocities with less apparent pressure from my .300 H&H than from any of the several .300 Winchesters I've owned. Not to mention better accuracy, too. I find the old H&H a superior cartridge to Winchester's 1963 "update". The proper amount of IMR7828SSC fuels an excellent load.

3050fps with the 180 TTSX in my Ruger No. 1

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Originally posted by perry:
With the 300 H&H and a 180gr bullet what velocities do yall try to achieve?
May factory Fed Premium Partitions run about 2,950 fps, my hand loads are low 3,000.
I've never felt as though the H&H needed to be a hot rod.
Thoughts?

Perry

Those velocities will kill a lot of critters I run my 300wm 180s just under 3000fps accurate kills well.

Matter of fact my 180s at 2700fps out of my 06 kills just as well.

Hard to knock the 30-06, its the goose that laid the golden eggs..

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
3050fps with the 180 TTSX in my Ruger No. 1

The admiral loaded me this exact load for my number 1.

I plan to use it hunting the rut in south Carolina.

I am very miserly shooting my 300 h&h - it’s too much fun and ammo is scarce

Mike

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
3050fps with the 180 TTSX in my Ruger No. 1

I am very miserly shooting my 300 h&h - it’s too much fun and ammo is scarce

Mike

That's why you reload Mike.

My load is H4831 w/ 180 Hdy IBond at about 3050 out of a 26" Bbl. Works GREAT!

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Originally posted by perry:
With the 300 H&H and a 180gr bullet what velocities do y'all try to achieve?
May factory Fed Premium Partitions run about 2,950 fps, my hand loads are low 3,000.
I've never felt as though the H&H needed to be a hot rod.
Thoughts?

Perry

Happy with 2800 fps and my 721, for plains game.

I really enjoy shooting my 300 H&H.

I settled on a 180gr TTSX at 2910 fps. Had another load that was slightly over 3000.

Not one animal in Namibia recognized the 100fps difference and went to the skinning shed anyway.

The only reason to shoot a 300 H&H at 3200 is to beat the socks off old Betsy, my 30-06..I really like both calibers..and their is a little nostalgia involved..

Ray, Betsy is going to report you for emotional abuse

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Yeah I know, Im a totaly nostalgic..and the 300 H&H has been a favorite of mine for years, its just a damn fine caliber without fault except by those who read too much newbie gunscribes BS..

With my newly acquired Rem 721 in 300H&H I am getting slightly over 3000fps with the 180 Nosler accubond over the max charge of Reloader 22.
I've also loaded up some of the 190gr Berger VLD hunting bullets and pushing them near 2950fps with IMR 7828SSC.

So far both loads have been accurate and neither showed any issues with pressure. I think I could load slightly more powder but like was said I see no reason to go any further.

All this said I got right at 3000 fps with a 200 gr. Nosler Accubond in my pre war M-70 and its a killing machine and shoots like a bench rest gun.
It was a lot beat up but shot pin holes. The first custom stock I every made was on it and glassed to fit..I sold it recently..Ive gone 338 for my medium bore in a Ruger no. 1` for now..and a 375 Ruger also..Just one of those things I do from time to time..

I was perfectly happy with the Federal Premium 180 loads with Barnes TSX bullets, before they discontinued that load. They choreographed a modest 2880 fps. Killed everything I needed it to. Eland was the largest of the game I took with it. But also Red Hartebeest, Kudu and Zebra with no problem. Accuracy was excellent.

The 300H&H and 300WSM have same powder capacity. Charlie Sisk did a test where he built a heavy 300H&H on a Rem 700, then set it back and rechambered it to 300 WSM. Same powder charges and bullet weights shot exactly the same in every way from both chambers. The short fat cartridge concept has merit in BR matches, but rounds like the 300 H&H do just fine in the field. I had a Bodding Ruger #1. Wish I’d kept it.

Do you think a 190 lb Whitetail in SC will know the difference from being hit with a 165 grain .30-06 bullet or a .300 H&H 180 grain bullet at the same velocity?

NOpe, a deer will never know the difference in a 30-30 or a 300 wby, if he does it wont be for long!!

but an elk at 400 yards can probably tell the difference, and the shooter can tell the difference the further out yonder, or so Im told..Thats where the 300 H&H shines doncha see!

I have this caliber in a post war winchester 70, with custom settings by a gunsmith.
It is possibly the cheapest of all my rifles, without a doubt, if I had to keep just one, it would be the one.
I have never fed such a smooth rifle.

Best regards

For the nay sayers that read the Koolaide shooting books by the experts that say the 300 H&H is only barely better than a 30-06 is just ignorant jiberish..Compare in your reloading book the 200 gr. bullets in all the 300s, The old H&H is only bested by the 300 REm mag and it slightly beats the 300 wby in the HOdgeden book...and I load mine hotter than they do! go figure...Its the old somebody sez its so and the other follow like lambs to slaughter...