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This is what the 350 Remington should have always been. Good work.

Wow! Check out that pre-Cooper Scout Scope. Maybe ole Jeff borrowed that one.

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Originally posted by 4sixteen:

One of my favorite cartridges; I have 4 of them. One long action, original 700, one custom Model 70, one Model 7, and one Ruger 77; long action, tang safety, in a boat paddle stock.

Bobster, I noticed that scout concept as well. The Col. did really like that calibre. He called it "The Fireplug". He even had lapel pins made of the cartridge case base for members of the fireplug club.

What powder are you using sir? Length of COL?

I promise I won't ask you how many grains, just would like to know what powder works that well for you. I use for example, from AA 2015, TAC, to Varget in my 35 Whelen with an old custom chamber. I have seen that CFE223 is getting some good results in the 35 bores as well but have not tried it as I am getting all I need with the above powders.

What have you gotten to kill with that magnum 35 bore.

Just have to comment on the "scout" concept; possibly the dumbest idea to hit the shooting world. Putting a scope two feet in front of your eyes is simply, the wrong way to do it. I understand that the idea is to increase your field of vision but it compromises your scope FOV more than it helps.
It was just a gimmick and fad. Bad idea.

Nice; I hope that thing was close to the road.

Very interesting and powerful results, 4sixteen. I'd love to see a resurgence, albeit minor, of this cartridge in the modern day. I can understand the DOA history of the round, but in today's market, there's every bit of room for something in this category. Even without the modifications you made, it's an impressive and capable cartridge. Same goes for it's brother, the 6.5RM.

Tom, I have to disagree with you on the scout concept. That's O.K. everyone's opinion counts. I don't use it or see it as any form of long-range FOV (I only use a 2.5X) but for the speed of target acquisition. Case in point; I built a Krag, cut + crowned bbl., took all excess weight away, jeweled every interior surface, + installed a Leupold in the scout config. I shot 3 deer in my garden in less time to write this sentence. I have a skeet thrower mounted on the hill here above the valley + I use it for that as well; quick target acquisition. I don't hit them all but I do mostly. My scoring is only slightly less than using a 12G.

310 grain bullets at 2,500 fps will do the job on anything. That’s .375 H&H Mag. power in a very compact package. I would not have thought it possible to get that out of the .350 Rem. Mag.

Wonder if anyone has ever necked the 350Rem up to 9.3? Dont recall ever reading about that. Would be fun, though dont really need a 4th 9.3 cartridge.

Thanks. Had not hear of that one. But not surprised as virtually every wildcat has already been invented.

Interesting information here, fellas.

I have a M-600 in .350 I puchased from the original owner. He bought it in 1968 for black bear in NH and VT. He shot it 7 times to sight it in and put in the closer for 42 years. When I bought it, it was covered in 1/4" of dust as it was never touched in all that time. The two boxes of Remington shells were there, too, with seven rounds missing.

I keep the rifle as a loaner when friends come to hunt in Alaska. It now has a Leupold 1.5-5x, the floor plate and trigger guard is now aluminum, a quick bolt removal device was installed, and is is coated to make it rust proof.

I may find the same in 6.5mm RM for another project and loaner.

It's the ugliest rifle on the planet but an excellent and useful rifle for high country, bad weather, and with enough punch if a grizzly is encountered. My doc shot a caribou at a measured 350 yards by holding high (way high).

I have never experimented with different loads but now I probably will. I use 50 and 55 grains of IMR 3031 with 250 and 200 grains Hornady round nose bullets.

Time to take it out and play with it when caribou season is over (my doc has it now).

Thanks for this thread.
Cal

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Originally posted by 4sixteen:
Remington 798 350 Rem Mag (24" 1:12 barrel): long action increased COAL more case capacity. Re-scoped recently with Leupold FX-II Ultralight 2.5x20mm for use primarily as another dark timber Elk rifle. Sighted in with 310gr Woodleigh handloads.

Dont know if I missed it anywhere, but whats the weight if this rifle as pictured?

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Originally posted by Bwana_500:
Wonder if anyone has ever necked the 350Rem up to 9.3? Dont recall ever reading about that. Would be fun, though dont really need a 4th 9.3 cartridge.

Isn't one of the Barsness/Sisk wildcats somewhat on that order ?

Hip

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Originally posted by Hipshoot:
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Originally posted by Bwana_500:
Wonder if anyone has ever necked the 350Rem up to 9.3? Dont recall ever reading about that. Would be fun, though dont really need a 4th 9.3 cartridge.

Isn't one of the Barsness/Sisk wildcats somewhat on that order ?

Hip

yep
https://www.24hourcampfire.com...9.3X62_Barsness-Sisk

The .350RM has always been one of my favorite cartridges. I've taken a fair amount of game with it. Versatile with lots of bullet choices to play with.

To me one of the most important points about it is the package it comes in. Those short, light little guns are so nice to pack around in the mountains. Lots of thump in a small package. I'd take it anywhere on the North American continent and feel just fine.


4sixteen, you must of bought out Remington's stock of 798's with all that you have shown on this forum!

I very much appreciate what you've done with them and shown what's possible with the ol .350 in a bigger action. Me I like the compact power a small .350 RM brings to the table.

I built a 35 Chatfield/Taylor one time for elk hunting in the black timber of Idaho..Loved it but finally opeted for the 338 or 30-06 for elk..and this year maybe my 348 Win with 250 gr. Kodiak or Barnes X HPs of yesterday for a cow hunt...For trophy bulls its the .338 win or my 30-06 every time, or so it seems.

Be nice to have a BLR in 350 Rem Mag. Nice rifle!

I'm aware thanks. Somehow the 358 Win doesn't do it for me

Im no longer a fan of "black timber rifles" seems like every time I hunt the black timber with my 338, 9.3x62 or the 35 Whelen, I see a huge bull four or five hundred yards across the canyon! Im pretty well sold on the 30-06 with a 200 gr. partition or Accubond or my all time favorite the 338 win. with a 225 gr. partition or Accubond, and up close they will penetrate a bull elk from stem to stern with a Texas heart shot, and thats about all you get in the black timber where I hunt.

Agree Ray, when I lived in Montana in my 20s, the old timers (of which I am now a member) used to say your shot on elk will be either under 30 yards or over 300.

Range (yd) Drop (in) Drop (moa) Wind. (in) Wind. (moa) Veloc. (fps) Energy (ft-lbs) Time (sec)
50 0.86 1.64 0.2 0.38 2638 3486 0.06
100 1.97 1.88 0.82 0.78 2529 3204 0.11
150 1.72 1.1 1.89 1.2 2423 2940 0.17
200 0 0 3.42 1.64 2319 2693 0.24
250 -3.33 -1.27 5.47 2.09 2218 2463 0.3
300 -8.43 -2.68 8.05 2.56 2119 2249 0.37
350 -15.46 -4.22 11.2 3.06 2023 2049 0.45
400 -24.61 -5.88 14.97 3.57 1929 1863 0.52
450 -36.09 -7.66 19.39 4.11 1838 1692

35 whelen Nosler 225 Accubond. Not just a black timber load.

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Originally posted by Bwana_500:
Wonder if anyone has ever necked the 350Rem up to 9.3? Dont recall ever reading about that. Would be fun, though dont really need a 4th 9.3 cartridge.

John Barsness has.

Bob
www.bigbores.ca

I have a 350 Rem Mag built on a VZ 24 action with a 24 in barrel,long throated to use the full mauser magazine length. This rifle likes the 250 gr Speer bullet. I've taken a couple moose and several black bears.With that 250 gr bullet starting out close to 2700 fps it has a decent trajectory and usually only requires one shot. IMR 4320 is the powder of choice. At close to 4000 ft/lbs of muzzle energy not sure how much more power one would need to feel comfortable..If you don't like the speer bullet is can be replaced with the 250 gr Partition (if you can find them). They take the same load and shoot to the same POI

Don't know where Shangri-La is, but I envy you.

Thanks for all of the mountain scenery pics!

I don't own a 350RM, but I have hunted a lot with my 35 Whelen.

We 'Brothers' of the 358 caliber.

I have shot the 350 RM in Remington 600 and 673. I'll take the 673 any day if I can choose. I like the extra steel and sight radius on the 673. At least the 673 seems a little longer. I love the Scout rifles though. My Steyr runs most any 308 stuff well. I would like to set up a 350 as a Scout. Be Well, Packy.

It is ideal in the scout config. That was Cooper's thought + totally agree.

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Originally posted by packrattusnongratus:
I have shot the 350 RM in Remington 600 and 673. I'll take the 673 any day if I can choose. I like the extra steel and sight radius on the 673. At least the 673 seems a little longer. I love the Scout rifles though. My Steyr runs most any 308 stuff well. I would like to set up a 350 as a Scout. Be Well, Packy.

Easy, just set up a 600 as it was originally designed. Long before Cooper copied the idea.

Great cartridge, not a carbine type myself. In a regular BDL with a 22" barrel or a lever action rifle I'm all about it.

Took the plunge today as I found a T/C Encore Custom Shop barrel in 350 Rem Mag. Always wanted to try this round, seemed like a reasonable way to get started. Has anybody ever seen a T/C barrel for the 350? This is the first I ever saw one...

Already ordered a form die as I know true 350 brass is tough to find. Anybody know where to get some?

The big bullets like the A-Frame or the Woodleighs seem like some great bear medicine, but I am strongly considering the 225gr Accubond [BC 0.430] as one that could stretch its legs a bit.

Thanks for any advice.

how long is the barrel? I haven't seen one available. Be Well, Packy.

The barrel length is 22" but I dont know the twist and the barrel is not marked. It is a "factory" T/C Custom Shop barrel, but I haven't found any documentation yet on what twist T/C used for 35 cals.

Once I have dies to make brass, I'll check the seating depth to the lands.

You do not need a form die; brass is easily formed in a standard FL die; you might have to turn or ream the necks depending on your chamber neck size and the brass you are using as donor brass. It's very easy to run say, a 7mm case into the FL die; forming die does nothing else.
As for twist, one in 16, probably; just measure it. If you want to use heavy bullets you might have to lengthen the throat, with a throat reamer, which I have.
I build them on long actions, and seat the bullets out like someone pictured above.
And the Scout concept is ludicrous. I know, some have forced themselves to use it. Standard scope mounting is far better.....

Lets assume this Encore barrel has a standard chamber without a long throat, how realistic are the heavy for caliber bullets in this short case?

I was looking at like the 280gr Swift A-Frame, be one heck of a bear thumper, but I have a feeling the velocity would drop so much so that the 225gr at 2600-2650 will still have more punch.

What are realistic 350RM velocity values for say 260, 280 and 300 gr bullets?

You just eat up a lot of valuable powder space when it could be utilized with a long throat. You don't have to use loads made for a 600; super short.
At what range are you shooting these bears? Might not make any difference.
I don't use anything heavier than 250 grainers in my 4 350s.

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Originally posted by 4sixteen:
Woodleigh manual lists 250gr at 2550 fps. No 310gr data. Mentions Model 600 so assumed to be short action data. 310gr seated to A level probably 2100 ~ 2200 fps at max pressure. Model 600 has 1:16 twist won't stabilize 310gr.

I had one of the Rem 700s in 35 Whelen and they were 1 in 16 twist. The 310 grain Woodleigh shot very well at 100 yards. I did not try at the longer ranges. I forget the actual velocity but from memory it was definitely over 2300 f/s.