Fellas anyone got links to Elmer kieths articles on the 44 special and his developments with the cartridge?

There is a 44 Associates Facebook page that may have what you are looking for.

Thanks Bill, I will check it out. I remember a couple of longer articles of his where he was almost laying back on the ground using his bent knee to steady the pistol barrel for long range. Probably a name for that type of shooting position. Assuming I have remembered the details accurately, it was over 20 years since I read it.

yeah, that was a very iconic photograph. I think everyone remembers it. He was truly the father of the 44 Magnum through his working of the 44 spl. We all owe a lot to him. I always enjoyed his column when he was the editor for "Guns + Ammo" in the 70s.

Safari Press has a collection of his Guns and SAMMI articles in book form.

The cover photo shows him in Stetson and 44

That shooting position of Elmer's is called the Creedmoor. You have to make sure the barrel-cylinger gap is past your leg or you can get a serious burn. I've seen some put a thick leather pad between the gun and leg to shield the blast.

You might enjoy these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ef3z9Sv3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Sxt0k5AG0

Order Keith's "Sixguns" on ABE Books.com. Quite an education and at the least entertainment and history. I have mine. Be Well, Packy.

I have 2 hardbound copies of "Sixguns". I forgot that I already had one + when a member posted, so I bought another. That's the problem of having so many books that you can't remember what you already have. On a humorous note, he was almost illiterate so when he presented his books + articles the editors had one helluva a time to try to work up his words into English that could be understood.

i heard they had to "clean up" a few of the articles too. i loved it when he said anyone that had to wear a glove when shooting a 44 mag had pinklace on their panties, or something similiar

Thanks all, took a while to find this again

My apology for sidetracking but take a look on artickles from Brian Pearce:

https://www.handloadermagazine...-w-special-pet-loads

http://www.goodrichfamilyassoc...e%2044%20Special.pdf

find one of the books on the "keith letters".... they were written advice from the nra's magazine that he personally wrote back … and signed in pencil... he had a monthly column.. 'dope bag'...

Then he did a Q+A column in the mid-70s in "Guns + Ammo" where he was editor. Then Bill Jordan replaced him as his health was getting worse.

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Originally posted by Onty:
My apology for sidetracking but take a look on artickles from Brian Pearce:

https://www.handloadermagazine...-w-special-pet-loads

http://www.goodrichfamilyassoc...e%2044%20Special.pdf

Thanks, anything 44 is good

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On a humorous note, he was almost illiterate so when he presented his books + articles the editors had one helluva a time to try to work up his words into English that could be understood.

I can assure you, Elmer was nowhere near illiterate! Maybe you just used a poor choice of words, but Elmer had no trouble putting his thoughts and ideas on paper, and getting his point across.

I have four of his letters from 1945 and 1946, and they certainly don't show that Elmer wasn't able to write, on the contrary, he was quite able. Now, if you actually meant to say that Elmer had a very distinctive style of writing, you would be correct. Thoughts just seem to pour out randomly, sentences run on forever, and occasionally one sentence lasts for a whole (long) paragraph. All these letters are single spaced, and with long sentence paragraphs, can be somewhat difficult to read. If you don't know what he is writing about, or referring to, even more so. In addition, Elmer could be quite opinionated at times, and he wasn't afraid to state his. I would not have have enjoyed being one of his editors, by any stretch of the imagination.

Basically, to Elmer, there were only two ways of doing things, his way (the correct way) and all other ways (the wrong way)! We are still infinitely better by having him as long as we did.

Somewhere there is a fairly new book composed entirely of Elmer's letters, unfortunately I wasn't aware of it when it was being published, so mine aren't in it.

I met Elmer Keith at the Houston gun show when I was a kid. At the time, I was reading everything he wrote like it was scripture. I had just bought my first 44 mag (a Ruger Super Blackhawk) and had a 1000 questions. He was patient and encouraging and was in no hurry "to chase off an annoying kid". To this day I still shoot 250KT bullets over a good dose of 2400.

Safe shooting.........LL

Yes, sir, that's the load. I use it myself.

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Originally posted by Zephyr:
You might enjoy these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ef3z9Sv3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Sxt0k5AG0

Thank you. I have not seen these before.

I should have the Keith letters book in a few days. ABE Books shows some stores with them in stock. ... PS. I have the book now. I have read the forward and some letterrs. He was a great one for knowledge and could have been helpful but I didn't really get into handguns, with questions, until he was gone. I missed out. I am trying to make up for it with these letters and two other books I reread sometimes. Be Well, Packy.