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loads for 30.06 with 200 and 220 partitions
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I just picked up some 200gr and 220 nosler partitions for my 30.06. I am looking to make some heavy loads for big North Carolina black bear. Any loads that you would like to share would be greatly appreciated. My boys keep taking my .375 H and H and .416


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Posts: 234 | Location: North Carolina, USA | Registered: 17 January 2012Reply With Quote
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Impressive muzzle speeds with Re22 (24" barrel) -

https://load-data.nosler.com/l...a/30-06-springfield/

With Sako 220gr factory loads I get 2400 fps and good accuracy from my 20" barrel Sako 85 Bavarian Carbine.

 
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On the 220's: H414 works fine and Ramshot Hunter works great as well if you would like a Ball powder choice.


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There used to be a sticky at the top of the reloading page for 30/06 loads and if I recall MRP was the top performer on speed and accuracy with 200 grain bullets.
I think the guy who posted it was M98...
 
Posts: 5603 | Location: Eastern plains of Colorado | Registered: 31 October 2005Reply With Quote
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I get a little better velocity than Nosler quotes with 58 grs. of RL-22 under a 200 gr. Accubond in my Win. mod 70 fwt with a 22 inch barrel,2724 FPS in two different chronographs, must be a fast barrel, and not unusual to vari 50 FPS between barrels of the same make or specs..Since that's the same velocity I get with a 180 gr. I have opted for the Nosler 200 gr. accubond and partition, my two favorite bullets for deer, elk. and African PG, including Eland..I quite using the 180 Noslers long ago,still a great bullet, but I do prefer the 200 gr. I can get even better velocity with my cash of old WW2 4831 with a few more grs and actually less pressure, the stuff that Jack O'Conner praised so highly, but I hate to measure every damn load, and that stuff cuts grs. big time, so I opt for RL-22 and H414 these days..

With the same powders the 270, a 160 gr. Nosler partition will fetch 2700 plus FPs with WW2-4831, but its too hot. (that's unusual with most guns) I use RL-22 with 57 grs. at 3140ish FPS in this particular pre 64 std wt. Notice its the total opposite of my 30-06 Win mod 70 pre 64, My 270 dotes on RL-21, high velocity, low pressure. The 30-06 dotes on WW2 4831 and RL-22 but the velocity is 2700 ish with both..???? confusing! I may or may not get it worked out, it ain't bad either way, but like I said confusing. I took them both up to 60 grs. of both and had to back down to 3 to 4 grs. in both calibers, they wouldn't take 60 yet my old Ruger 77 took 60 grs. of either without a hitch, and that's a very compact load in both calibers..

Anyway to keep it simple I use RL-22 in both calibers with the 160 in the .270 and the 200 in both my 30-06s. I know for sure the 200 gr. Accubond Nosler will knock the snot out of an elk, and is my all time load for hunting with the 30-06. Im amazes evertime I shoot an elk how fast they go down with this bullet..

I have not done much with the 220 gr.bullets except in my Win 95 Lever action..and I shoot it at 2400 FPS, a rather mild load,but effective on game.

All of the above took place over a 4 or 5 months time table working up loads that would work in all three rifles..

It shows how much difference their is from rifle to rifle, caliber to caliber, and the fact that ever gun is a enity unto itself..and barrels vari more than we think..


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thanks much to all


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Posts: 234 | Location: North Carolina, USA | Registered: 17 January 2012Reply With Quote
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Norma 205 used to be THE powder for heavy bullets in the '06, not sure if the newer MRP is as good or not.
 
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The 240 Woodleigh can be pushed almost as fast as the 220 anything! Not near my notes, but it was either with R15 or R22? Anyhow, its not a picky bullet to find a decent load for. Shoots well in a 10" twist.
 
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Using the Woodleigh manual data for the 240gr PP SN and Re22 I get just under 2300 fps muzzle speed from my 20" barrel .30-06 Sako Carbine. About 100 fps less than the 220gr. The 240gr should penetrate well.

 
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I think a 240 gr is over the top, not saying it won't kill, it will but you do give up range and even in the thickest of timber you can be sure that sooner or later you will get a cross canyon shot and it can be a long one..I think the 150 are too light for elk and 220 are a bit slow..The 180s and 200s really make since to me..but to each his own on such subjects.


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I'm of the opinion that the 200 NP is about the best compromise for flat trajectory and punch in the '06. MRP and RL 22 both give me about 2700 fps and excellent accuracy.

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Posts: 12842 | Location: LAS VEGAS, NV USA | Registered: 04 August 2002Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
I'm of the opinion that the 200 NP is about the best compromise for flat trajectory and punch in the '06. MRP and RL 22 both give me about 2700 fps and excellent accuracy.

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Ballistics/trajectories compared, 240gr vs 180gr NP (my 20" barrel carbine). 240gr trajectory begins to drop off more sharply than the 180gr NP beyond 300 yards. 240gr has more energy close up and only marginally less beyond 200 yards than the 180gr NP. Only 1 way to see how the 240gr performs on game. A close up proposition. Bear season begins.

http://gundata.org/ballistic-calculator/



 
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I shoot my 30-06 mod. 95 Win. with 53 grs. of RL-22 for 2400 FPS plus a little...The trajectory is short, but the iron sights balance that out, its a short range 250 yard give or take 50, gun, end of story. But those 220 gr. Sierra, Nosler, Hornaday are deadly and leave nice exit holes as a rule..I like the 220 Nosler partition best, but the Sierra is the most accurate..In my bolt gun I only use the 200 gr. Nosler partition and accubonds at 2650 to 2700 fps..

The 95 is a modern Win. and I can get 2600 plus with a 220 gr. but the 95s don't like that much velocity with that heavy bullet, twist? mabe but Ive tried several and they shoot big bullets best at aroun 2400 in every case it seems to me.

BTW, the older mod. 95s need to run at about 40,000 PSI..The newer ones can handle book max as a rule, but my 220 gr. load is about 2 or 3 grs below book max and that's where the accuracy is in most of the new models Ive shot, and discussed with 95 shooters..


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The slow burners like MRP R22 R 26 give the best results in the 06 with 200 gn proj GIVING A VEL OF 2700-2720 i got great results with the 180 proj but out of boredom started using the 200 gn nosler in the 06, and after a few years it performed so well i sold all my 180 proj and bought a truck load of 200 partitions and have never really looked back or had ant regrets
i took the 06 to Kamchatka and took a brown with the 200 gn nosler, took it to Zim and took a Leopard Zebra 8 impalas 2 kudu 2 sable a few hog deer and about a dozen sambar
I found the 200 gn nosler broke bone / shoulders better then the 180....may have been co incidental...i used the 200 gn TSX on scrub bulls and the penetration was just phenomenal, and scrub bulls just dropped in there tracks...one massive scrub bull the 200 tsx broke the shoulder...no complains....At present im using R17....behind the 200 gn partition 54 gns gives me about 2720 and i do not have the compression issues that i did with a case full of MRP/R22 /WXR
Just a side note i get 2920 with R17 behind the 180 partition
With the 220 partition i hit 2600 , with R22 and that would be an excellent load for anything at short to moderate ranges large or small

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I used 55gr R15/240 for 2400fps ( 24" bbl) and 61gr R22/200NP (never clocked it) great accuracy and soild killer of big hogs! ha
 
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A 200 gr. Accubond or partition at 2700 plus in a 30-06 has about voided the use of the great 180 gr. partition for me on every thing from deer, antelope, PG, to elk. Moose and Eland..It just thumps them..The partition 220 is a great bullet on big stuff up pretty close I suspect and I wouldn't hesitate to shoot bison or Cape Buffalo with one backed by a solid or two.


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I use 220s of what ever brand I can find mostly Horaday and Remington.

2280 out of my 18' scout 03 and 2450 out of 22 inch barrels.

Lots of hogs and a few bears have fallen to the scout rifle.

My daughter shot a 500lb plus bear with her Ruger MII 220gr rem at about 20 feet .

Hit the ground at the shot about 5 seconds later a 41 mag to the head paid the insurance at about 6 inches.

When hounds and people are in danger I am a firm believer in making sure they are dead.
 
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I tested the 240 grain Woodleigh and 200 grain Partition on wildebeest in Namibia. I used RL22 for the powder. 30-06

They killed wildebeest just fine. Penetrated well but not anything different than the 180 a-frame or scirocco.

I'll be doing another cull hunt in August. Will be using NBT, Pro Hunter, and Rem Core Lokt Ultra on wildes. Scirocco and A-frames on eland and kudu. H4350 powder will be used on all bullets.
 
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I was wondering what constitutes a big black bear and what part of the country? I'm just curious not condemning. I won't get to hunt bear as years ago I promised a game biologist uncle I would not ever hunt a bear. I won't be changing a promise like that. Be Well. Packy
 
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Idaho bear at 300 lbs is a brute. Ive shot a few bear, but bear hunting with me is a target of opertunit while elk hunting, and I will probably pass one up..

I like bear meat of a young bear and the Tallow is without challenge. Best of muzzle loading grease, tortillas, biscuits, pie crust, awesome..


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I was wondering what constitutes a big black bear and what part of the country?


Wis kills a couple of 700 pound bears a year.

PA kills some 800 pound bears.

Sounds like SC kills some monsters also
 
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I like bear meat of a young bear and the Tallow is without challenge. Best of muzzle loading grease, tortillas, biscuits, pie crust, awesome


My wife makes a wonderful pie crust with bear lard.
 
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