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For a 16" Ruger Laminate Compact in 308 Winchester to be used for a 12" x 24" metal target out to 600 yards. With the following components what would you start with?

Powders:

BL-C(2),
IMR 4895,
Reloder 15,
Varget,

CCI Large Rifle Primers

Bullets:

145 gr FMJ bulk packaged from Wideners,
Hornady 150 gr A-Max,
Hornady 165 gr BTSP,
Sierra 180 gr Spitzer GameKing,
Speer 180 gr Spitzer Hot-Cor

Brass:

BHA MATCH 308 WIN
Hornady 308 Win,
WA 80 7.62 R1M1
POF 80 L2A2
LC 0x LR

TIA, Steve
 
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I got you the pages out of Hornady's latest manual. There are two loading, one is 308 and the other is 308 Service Rifle (7.62x51 NATO) They are marked on the sides.







 
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# of your powders are Hodgdon - you should go to their website.


Mike



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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With the following components what would you start with?


OP here.

I have the manuals from Hornady, Speer, Lymans, and Lee and access to online load data.

Maybe I should have emphasized it like this:

With the following components what would YOU start with?
 
Posts: 69 | Location: The Monadnocks | Registered: 25 December 2002Reply With Quote
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4895 and Varget. BHA and Hornady brass.
 
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I like I4895 and 168HPBT. at max per Hodgodon.

with Sierra 155 Palmas Varget and AR-Comp

haven't tried Varget with 168
 
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I-4895, Hornady brass w/A-max.
 
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I been shooting 42grs of 4895 in my 308's for so long I wasn't sure anyone used anything else.
I just use that much and pretty much any bullet between 145-168grs. and a case of some sort.

it's always worked in everything I've used it in.
 
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165 Hornady & Varget and I would load 4 rounds
@:

44.4
44.8
45.2
45.6
46.0

You will likely find two of those with the same group size and the same POI.

Then split the difference between the two loads.


Mike



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10043 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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Ive been using WW-748 in the .308 for years, mostly in the Savage 99, I like the 165 gr. Balistic tip and recently the Accubond..but Im not shooting at 600 yards..These are my hunting loads, and tested to 300 and 400 yard targets.


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
 
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