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I have a lot of Nosler 270 Win brass. Love Nosler/Norma brass. I can’t find 35 Whelen brass. I have been ordered to quarantine.

Can I make 35 Whelen brass from the 270 Win brass like you can with 30/06. I believe this will not work bc 270 Win brass is longer w different shoulder placement.
 
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The .270 and .30-06 have the same nominal case head to shoulder length. It is the .280 Rem that has a longer case head to shoulder length (~0.050”) to prevent it from being negligently chambered in A .270 Win and fired.
 
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If you have any reservations about any brass, it is best to first neck it up to something larger, than what you want to end up with, and FL resize, (forming a new shoulder).
For example, when making 400 Whelen you have to first neck it up to .458 to get a proper shoulder.
Yours, go to 375, but actually, you can just expand the neck to 35 and be fine. Unless your chamber is longer than normal, or your brass is shorter. Try some and see.
 
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I have had a few necks split on me going from .27 cal to .35 cal. If I recall I think it was Federal brass that was the worst offender. It might help to use an intermediary cal first but I get enough free.270 and 30-06 brass that I can stand to loose a few in the process.


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Then don't use federal brass. I routinely go from 30 to 45 and back to 40 and rarely lose any brass; I use mostly LC match. I do go to 375 first though. You could anneal first.
 
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I have beaucoup of LC brass as well + it makes for a good parent case for the wildcats. I load 35 Whelen for my preacher friend + have never had any issue resizing 270 or 30/06 brass to 35 in just one press stroke. Well lubed of course, but that goes without saying.


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I thank everyone for their response. I am will start in the morning.

DPCD: I know we disagree in the 6.5 Creedmore and 270 Win, but I will be the first to say you have forgotten more than I know. I especially appreciate your response.
 
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I fool a lot of people that way.
 
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DPCD: I know we disagree in the 6.5 Creedmore and 270 Win, but I will be the first to say you have forgotten more than I know. I especially appreciate your response.
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I have purchased 1,000s of National Match 30/06 pull down/never fired cases from Pat’s reloading in Ohio. First thing I would do when I returned home was neck up 400 of the 30/06 cases to 338 Winchester or 35 Whelen; I knew I was going to use them, I just did not know when.

Before that I tried everything, most with success; the cases that split with over 50% failures were nickel plated anything so it was cheaper to use cases that cost 7 cents each.

280 Remington cases: The 280 Remington cases are .051” longer from the datum line to the case head than the 30/06 case when measured from the same place. There were times I would use the 280 cases to off set the .050” in case length when neck sizing and forming.

From beginning to end I lost .035” in length when necking a 30/06 case up to 35 Whelen; when I went from 30/06 to 30 Gibbs the case shortened .045”. That does not seem like much but the 30 Gibbs neck is .217” long from the shoulder/neck juncture to the mouth of the case that is a short neck. The 270 Winchester case was a better choice when off setting the effects of forming.

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I have a lot of Nosler 270 Win brass. Love Nosler/Norma brass. I can’t find 35 Whelen brass.


Remington was the only component manufacturer that made cases for reloaders that knew what they were doing. R-P made cases that were stamped 35 Whelen. The cases were identified as being 'cylinder brass. The cases were straight wall and 2.650" long. Seems they sold the cases for $35.00 for a box of 20.

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I recently found some 35 Whalen brass at Graf and Sons, it was Norma and pretty pricey. Still show to have it in stock.


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a few years ago I bought 500 7mm and 300
RUM cases at a buck each.

Necking them up to 35's, split 7 of ten.
Played a bit and ended up splitting 47 before
I got the torch and my head out.

Having the argument many times over quenching
or air cooling. I decided to do a test of 20
each.

The first 4 quenched split. F that! Not a single
one of the other 453 air cooled split.

That's the only time I've ever annealed brass.

Just my "but once" experience.

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I thank everyone for their response. I am will start in the morning.

DPCD: I know we disagree in the 6.5 Creedmore and 270 Win, but I will be the first to say you have forgotten more than I know. I especially appreciate your response.


Man, if we all agreed this would be a boring place. As long as we are civil, disagreements are to be expected.

DPCD has contributed a lot to this site.


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I have a lot of Nosler 270 Win brass. Love Nosler/Norma brass. I can’t find 35 Whelen brass.


There’s currently enough Nosler .35 Whelen brass on Gunbroker to shoot out multiple barrels...
 
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What does “non blem factory over run” mean?
 
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What does “non blem factory over run” mean?


someone hit 17,000 rather than 15,000 batch run size?


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Originally posted by LHeym500:What does “non blem factory over run” mean?


I do not know; I was at Hornady when I wanted blemished .765/.311 bullets, they scooped bullets our of the .311 bin and then poured them in a sack. I do not remember of they weighed them or counted them.

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I have shot thousands of Nosler blems for years from .22 up to .358 calibers. I see no difference between them and first run bullets as to accuracy or performance on animals. Occasionally Nosler has over runs on first run bullets for various reasons and will put them up for sale at very reasonable prices. I stocked up on .277 160 grain Partition first run bullets at $15.00 per box years ago and it is my go to Elk bullet. I managed to buy 25 box’s then Nosler started to limit purchases to each buyer. The Nosler guys told me at a NRA convention said they always shoot them. Good Shooting.


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