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The Wisconsin DNR wants to eliminate the baiting and feeding of Deer.They claim it promotes the spread of CWD.At a Conservation meeting I attended they said the NEW STUDIES indicated the CWD was spread from Saliva and possibly Urine.When I asked to see THE STUDIES ,they could not produce them.Please take time to do this Survey.

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My questions are does your State or Province have legal Deer Baiting?????Please let me know where you are from.

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Does your State or Province allow the Feeding of Deer for Non Hunting Activities?? Location Please

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Posts: 4372 | Location: NE Wisconsin | Registered: 31 March 2007Reply With Quote
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Feeding is legal most of the year here in KY. But just last year they started limiting it to certain months, citing the spread of disease as the reason.


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Posts: 109 | Location: Kentucky | Registered: 21 September 2007Reply With Quote
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I have to say that I am not 100% certain in Arizona. But I cannot recall any rules prohibiting the activity. bewildered

To answer your question with some authority you need to find a master baiter. Wink


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Posts: 4263 | Location: Pinetop, Arizona | Registered: 02 January 2006Reply With Quote
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I live in minnesota,where baiting is not allowed.However,when I tried to vote in your poll,it said I had already voted. Confused
Typically deer are only fed in winter when they are very short of food.


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Posts: 2937 | Location: minnesota | Registered: 26 December 2002Reply With Quote
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Maryland. We can bait, and the bunny huggers can feed them too.

I think I see where you're going. It would be completely hypocritical to ban baiting while not banning feeding, imo.

I hunt most often on a farm whith either corn or soybeans depending on rotation. If the neighbors are in corn and we're in soybeans, we won't see many deer unless we bait. And not long after the soybeans are in there will be NO deer, except those transitting.

Even when we're in corn, we see more deer with corn feed/bait.

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Posts: 4900 | Location: Chevy Chase, Md. | Registered: 16 November 2004Reply With Quote
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Texas allows both. So I guess the WDNR is going to ban the assembly of deer for feeding too? What the heck do they think happens in areas of natural feed? Next they'll be banning deer reproduction because the exchange of bodily fluids is too dangerous for the animals, lol. Probably use bailout funds for a free condom program for deer.


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Posts: 11137 | Location: Texas, USA | Registered: 22 September 2003Reply With Quote
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Ohio allows both.
 
Posts: 2392 | Location: NE Ohio | Registered: 06 August 2005Reply With Quote
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Arkansas allows both. But it is not allowed after Jan. 31 until sometime after spring turkey season is over. This is to keep folks from hunting turkey over bait where they are quite vulnerable. Merg
 
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What Merganser said... and another exception to the rule is public land like WMAs and national forest.


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Posts: 315 | Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas | Registered: 01 July 2005Reply With Quote
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Ontario Canada allows both.The Ministry has made noises about stopping winter feeding. Some A/hole from the city who has never been in the bush comes up with these ideas. When the fawns are pushing snow if they don't get suplemental feed they and the big old bucks don't make it.


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Posts: 17 | Location: Northern Ontario Canada | Registered: 31 December 2007Reply With Quote
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I am from Texas, but don't agree with tiggertate's assessment of the situation.

Feeding/baiting deerr whether for hunting purposes or viewing purposes, concentrates deer in small areas in un-natural numbers.

Whether it is saliva/sex/snot, does not make any difference, except in locations where snow gets deep enough for deer to yard up, and I damn sure ain't never seen that happen in Texas, getting a lot of deer concentrated in one small area is not good for the herd.


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Posts: 31014 | Location: Olney, Texas | Registered: 27 March 2006Reply With Quote
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Alberta, Canada.
You can't bait to hunt but you can use bait to take photos or feed all winter.
 
Posts: 168 | Location: Canada | Registered: 22 March 2011Reply With Quote
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Whether it is saliva/sex/snot, does not make any difference, except in locations where snow gets deep enough for deer to yard up, and I damn sure ain't never seen that happen in Texas, getting a lot of deer concentrated in one small area is not good for the herd.


I am not sure I agree... there are places in this country where it gets cold enough that the only way deer survive is to "yard up" and share the body heat they all contribute. Deer by themselves freeze to death, while deer in "yards" seem to somehow survive.

But I will agree that doesn't happen in TX...
 
Posts: 4748 | Location: TX | Registered: 01 April 2005Reply With Quote
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Louisiana allows both.
 
Posts: 201 | Location: south louisiana | Registered: 18 July 2010Reply With Quote
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One old hunters two cents.

1. I have 1000s of Antelope travel through my pastures to feed and water every year to feed and water while migrating. Could pot one off my front porch any day or night for 60 days.

2. I drive 50 to 100 miles to legally hunt them on public land.

No. 1 is a meat hunter that may need the meat to feed his family (justified) OR just a slob who is too lazy to really follow hunting ethics.

No. 2 is the way an ethical hunter hunts.

If you can't spot, stalk, use wind and topography to kill your animal you are not a hunter ...... just a target shooter using live game rather then paper or gongs.

The only game you can bait in WY is black bears. Killing a bear over a well set up, faithfully manned & managed bait is about as hard as knocking down tin cans at 50 feet with a 22RF off a bench rest.
 
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If you can't spot, stalk, use wind and topography to kill your animal you are not a hunter ...... just a target shooter using live game rather then paper or gongs.The only game you can bait in WY is black bears. Killing a bear over a well set up, faithfully manned & managed bait is about as hard as knocking down tin cans at 50 feet with a 22RF off a bench rest.


The only problem with your statement, is that conditions are not just exactly the same nationwide. Some states have reasonable amounts of Public Land, where hunting as you interpret it, can be done.

Other states do not have a lot of Public Land and the majority of "Hunting" is done on Private Lands of varying sizes. In Texas, hunting methods on Private Property are dictated by the land owners. Bag limits/hunting hours and equipment used are dictated by the state, but the actual manner of hunting is controlled by the Land Owner.

The thing that needs to be remembered, is that we all have to buy hunting licenses/pay for transportation to and from where we are hunting/pay for the equipment we use/pay for food-beverages-lodging when going to-from our hunts or for supplies to maintain a camp, amnd in the end, all of us are shooters, nothing more.

Making derogatory comments about how others have to participate in the sport or their abilities because of how they have to do things, is just further evidence that hunters simply can not put aside the minutiae, and stand united against the folks wanting to take hunting from us.

Those folks do not care how we do what we do, they want it all stopped, PERIOD!


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Posts: 31014 | Location: Olney, Texas | Registered: 27 March 2006Reply With Quote
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One old hunters two cents.

1. I have 1000s of Antelope travel through my pastures to feed and water every year to feed and water while migrating. Could pot one off my front porch any day or night for 60 days.

2. I drive 50 to 100 miles to legally hunt them on public land.

No. 1 is a meat hunter that may need the meat to feed his family (justified) OR just a slob who is too lazy to really follow hunting ethics.

No. 2 is the way an ethical hunter hunts.

If you can't spot, stalk, use wind and topography to kill your animal you are not a hunter ...... just a target shooter using live game rather then paper or gongs.

The only game you can bait in WY is black bears. Killing a bear over a well set up, faithfully manned & managed bait is about as hard as knocking down tin cans at 50 feet with a 22RF off a bench rest.


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Posts: 23752 | Location: Pearland, Tx,, USA | Registered: 10 September 2001Reply With Quote
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Georgia does--and doesn't--allow baiting.

We are divided into the Northern and Southern Zones.

Last year, after considerable input from the public, and a lot of political maneuvering, baiting was made legal--in the Southern Zone.

We in the Northern Zone are still prohibited from baiting.

Interestingly, when hunter input was requested, there were some deeply divided opinions on baiting.

We are seeing a decline in deer in Georgia, so this year doe days have been cut back.

Coyotes are also being blamed for deer population declines.


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Posts: 1541 | Location: Native Texan Now In Jacksonville, Florida, USA | Registered: 10 July 2000Reply With Quote
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I hunted Northern Wisconsin for a number of years and if you did not bait you might as well go fishing as everyone does and once season opens the deer move to that area of favored food. unfortunately most of the activity occurs after or before legal hours.

I since bought my own property in southern Illinois and baiting is illegal any time of the year. When crops are up deer movement is minimal but once harvested and once the rut starts it is very easy to get action. I have seen, missed and killed larger deer in a few years than I have seen in 25 years up north. Inside the woods deer move all day long and migrate to the harvested field at the end and beginning of the day. Baiting may have some up side for starving deer during deep snow or cold but where I now hunt none of that exist. I personally do not miss baiting and the way I now hunt is more sporting.


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Posts: 2295 | Location: Monee, Ill. USA | Registered: 11 April 2001Reply With Quote
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We are not allowed to bait or feed any game animals in New York State.
 
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Kansas allows both. Missouri you can feed but it must be totally gone 10 days before the hunting season and real minerals are not considered bait, just anything food or containing food, like apple flavored mineral blocks.


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Posts: 3942 | Location: Kansas USA | Registered: 04 February 2002Reply With Quote
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Kansas allows both. Missouri you can feed but it must be totally gone 10 days before the hunting season and real minerals are not considered bait, just anything food or containing food, like apple flavored mineral blocks.


Larry, that is interesting. Is salt considered a real mineral in Kansas? I can think of nothing in the world more effective as an attractant than a block of salt.
 
Posts: 4748 | Location: TX | Registered: 01 April 2005Reply With Quote
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I usually make a "lick" by simply pouring about a 1/2 bag (50 pounds) of what the local feed store calls "mixing salt" (slightly larger grains) with some cheap nutrient lick, at about a 3-1 salt/lick ratio.
Works great for hogs, even more so than deer.

Just pick a spot and pour it on the ground. Before long, you'll have a hole to pour it in.


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Posts: 17099 | Location: Texas USA | Registered: 07 May 2001Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by 7x7royal:
One old hunters two cents.

1. I have 1000s of Antelope travel through my pastures to feed and water every year to feed and water while migrating. Could pot one off my front porch any day or night for 60 days.


For now. Every year I see more antelope-proof fences around hayfields, and almost no antelope around Farson any more.


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Posts: 14331 | Location: Moreno Valley CA USA | Registered: 20 November 2000Reply With Quote
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Washington currently bans Baiting for Deer. It was Legal?
 
Posts: 2320 | Location: East Wenatchee | Registered: 18 August 2008Reply With Quote
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Baiting is allowed in South Carolina. Like GA we are facing a decline being blamed on coyotes.


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Posts: 126 | Location: South Carolina | Registered: 18 September 2009Reply With Quote
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I too am from Minnesota. As has been stated, Minnesota does not allow deer baiting. And while I do not really care to hunt over bait for deer I don't really see the logic in it. Its ok to hunter over a corn field, or a bean field, or a pumpkin field, or a radish field, or a clover field, or really any planted crops.
I don't see a real lot of difference between standing corn or corn being placed on the ground.
 
Posts: 2059 | Location: Mpls., MN | Registered: 28 June 2014Reply With Quote
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http://www.foodsafetynews.com/...isease/#.WuUwnmdK2Uk

The above link is to an article about the prions that cause CWD binding to plants. It was already know they can bind to some types of soils and remain viable for many years. The prions are transmitted to the plants and soil from urine, feces, or blood from an infected animal, where they can remain active and later be transmitted to another animal.

The reason there are proposals to ban deer feeding is that it concentrates the animals and makes transmission more likely. Besides ingesting prions by eating the plants, there is also a theory that the residue from dried urine can be inhaled and infect other animals. The high incidence of CWD associated with captive deer areas supports these theories. The only way we will know if banning feeding will help stop the spread of CWD is to try it.
 
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Hunting, and if in fact you see yourself as Dan Boone, and have all those imagined skills of hunt and stalk, tracking, etc etc and your ego tells you your the worlds champ, you are in fact a dumb ass lucky SOB that stumbled onto a trophy and got in a lucky shot..at least in the real world. I actually have all those skills due to my being raised on a big texas cattle ranch, and killed some big bucks and other game, thinking back, little or no skill was involved in 90% at least!! hilbily jumping


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