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Got this email today. I presume this is not going to make any difference in regards to my Elephant permit applied for 6 years ago.   ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | ||
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I don't think it will make any difference as to when/if your permit is approved, but I think that if you sign up you will be able to track the movement/non-movement of your application. A couple of months, out of the blue, I received a couple of emails from USFWS regarding elephant permit applications I filed (at least two other AR members received the same type email), the emails provided reference numbers and I could see where and when the permits had moved between "sections" of USFWS. I think this ePermits program will allow you to do the same. I'll sign up for this. Karl Evans | |||
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Thanks Karl ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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I got the same email today. I also have ivory impending. Guess I will sign up. Right move? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Received mine as well. | |||
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How is the new system working out for every one. | |||
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Man, this has been a goat roping! Signed up for USF&W web site; problems from the start. Then they advise new epermit site. Sign up but can't access my own account. Forget getting help. 19 months out and still no Bontebok permit yet they cashed my check for $100. Now they advise a new website to be handled by a third party (good way to get hacked). Sign in after multiple attempts; then no access to my personal account which I just created. Nightmare from day one. Emails go unanswered, or answered with more BS/lies. USF&W is broken, severely broken. Wonder if China Joe can fix it? Holding my breath. LDK Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Same thing with the NF system permit web site. The first month of the roll was so screwed up. They canceled all the permits issued and every one had to start over. Even after a couple of years they are F up. It was interesting that looks like an official government site. It is contracting company that real doesn't not have the power to do anything. We made a mistake but we don't have the power to fix it | |||
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We moved to an e-permit system in SA a few years ago. There were a few initial problems but for the most part it works well for me. I prefer it, there's a trail of transactions and clear instructions as to what documents the system requires to approve permits. Turnaround time is down to 48 hours on the most basic level of permits. We had a message from the USFW head at our PHASA AGM. She seemed to be committed to approving the permitting system and also seemed to have an understanding of the link between hunting and conservation. She was Trump appointed, hope she's still there. I hope the system improves going forward. Victor Watson Karoo Wild Safaris Email: info@karoowildsafaris.co.za Cell: (+27) 721894588 www.karoowildsafaris.co.za | |||
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Wish I could tell you, but I can't log into the account I created a few weeks ago. Not one bit surprised. Karl Evans | |||
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 Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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I have been trying to get someone to answer a question about remaining hides from a tuskless cow I took in 2013 (pre approval). I started off a the local USFW where I clear my trophies. They were not 100% sure of the process and suggested I contact the DC office (gave me a number and email). I have left 3 voicemails and sent 3 emails over the course of the last two without nothing but an automated reply. Tad frustrating. The danger of civilization, of course, is that you will piss away your life on nonsense | |||
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I would bet you won’t be able to bring any elephant “parts” into the US, legally, due to the ongoing elephant import permit lawsuit and the current USFWS policy. But I could be wrong, and wish I was. Karl Evans | |||
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Hutty, My understanding is that no part of a tuskless was ever importable. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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In the past, I believe any part of any elephant , regardless of sex, was importable if the country of origin had CITES quota and issued an export permit, but as usual, I could be wrong. Karl Evans | |||
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I had items made from the tuskless and was given CITIES permit and was able to import but this was back in 2013. Who knows what the rules are now. The danger of civilization, of course, is that you will piss away your life on nonsense | |||
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Ignoring the illegality of USFWS not processing any elephant applications for the time being, I think there is a missing part to the "Can I import a tuskless" question. The African nation has two types of quota. Trophy exportable quota and non-trophy non-exportable management quota. So for example, you shoot two 25lb elephant in Zim. One was killed on a trophy elephant license where they had CITES export quota as a nation, for that region, for that concession, and for your permit. The other was a non-trophy hunt. The former animal can be exported, the latter animal cannot. It is doubtful that an African nation or a PH is going to let you consume a $10,000 (their cost) trophy elephant tag for you to consume it on a tuskless or non-trophy bull hunt. Because that exportable tag is expensive and rare, something they hold back for a $45,000 paying customer that is hunting really big elephant whereas their $4000-$6000 non-trophy non-exportable tag can be sold for a hunt that may only cost $14,000. | |||
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Can you believe that to run a background check (NICS) you have to use Edge ... Chrome does not work? But to update your login and pw, something you have to do every 3 months, Edge does not work either, you have to use Firefox? And to apply for an import permit for firearms, if you make an error or if it's denied for any one of a number of silly reasons, you can't change the application? You must withdraw it and start over. Just examples of the eternal dilemma: 1. Government will fail you every time 2. Government is a leaky bucket 3. Government is corrupt 4. Government is a necessary evil What is the answer then? There are 2 answers. 1. Keep government as small as possible .. it should fit in a shoebox. 2. Keep government as local as possible .. as envisioned by our founders. We don't need any one-size-fits-none federal meddling. Right now we need to heed this big time. Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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What Russ said...verbatim! Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Got an email today advising me that a “new and improved” system will be available on June 29. Oh yeah…have to create a new log in for that one too. Might not be to easy since I can’t log into the account I now have. Karl Evans | |||
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Oh the fun never ends with USF&W. I signed up for the latest goat roping only to be instructed that I had to pick an application app in order to have a secondary back up log in (Dog & Pony show). After going through multiple steps, I discovered my USF&W account wasn't linked to the new e-permits fiasco. Went to my USF&W account and couldn't log in; that's the usual SNAFU. After entering multiple passwords, I gave them one to really tell them how I feel; once again, couldn't sign in to my own account. Either this bunch is totally run by anti-hunting vegans or robots have taken over the service. Again, unable to navigate insanity. LDK BTW; There have been zero Bontebok permits issued over the last four years. They take your money and ignore you. Someone should file a class action lawsuit, there is no excuse for this, none. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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