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The latest SCI thread brought up an interesting thought which I also have pondered. Since we have data from an NRA study that words like "trophy" and perhaps "sport" are looked upon with a negative view in regards to hunting.....

What would you name your international hunting conservation organization if you helped spearhead it's birth today?


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Whatever name it has, it should not include the words trophy or sport.


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I wiil press my name forward formally and officially :

International Hunting and Conservation Foundation. ICHF.
 
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I knew we had talked about this before. From 2015: http://forums.accuratereloadin...043/m/9121046412/p/1

My idea then was the International Sporting and Conservation Aliiance. But if “sporting” is now gauche, I guess we’ll have to dump it. ;-)

...but change Foundation above to Alliance - now you have something.

International Hunting and Conservation Alliance

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I believe it's also important for any Internet presence to emphasize the conservation and anti-poaching aspects. Not just using the word in the title. It is worth if necessary paying for the right editorial content. Most of this is private sector now anyway, and it is easy to show who pays for it and who doesn't, which is in our favor.
 
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Conservation International
 
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Conservation International


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No matter the name, the org must LEAD with conservation of wildlife and habitat, community involvement and support with sustainable hunting as a means to that very positive end. It has to be hunting as a means to support the rest, not the rest as a means to support hunting, else you lose credibility and are seen as simply padding the zoo for your own sick pleasure. One is defensible and promotable, one is not.
 
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How about:

Conservationist United for Natural Things
 
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How about:

Conservationist United for Natural Things


The URL would be problematic - and is probably already in use...but I ain't checking!
 
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International association for the conservation of wildlife and wild lands.



 
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he URL would be problematic - and is probably already in use...but I ain't checking!

I don't get it :-)
 
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JMHO. The name should reflect conservation first and hunting second, it should relate to the "world" or "International", etc. and ideally the acronym should be something pronounceable or preferably be a real word.

Conservationist and Hunters of the World - CHOW
Association of International Conservationists and Hunters - AICH

Etc.


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JMHO. The name should reflect conservation first and hunting second, it should relate to the "world" or "International", etc. and ideally the acronym should be something pronounceable or preferably be a real word.

Conservationist and Hunters of the World - CHOW
Association of International Conservationists and Hunters - AICH

Etc.


Agree on all parts. My favorite org name is the East African Professional Hunters Association - it was clear what it was, and had a great, pronounceable acronym - EAPHA - "eefa"

Three-letter acronyms also work well, like CHA - Conservation and Hunting Alliance - something like that.

I think SCI used to use "First for Hunters" as a tagline - if conservation includes hunting, you can be First for Conservation and be 100% pro-hunting to achieve that goal.
 
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JMHO. The name should reflect conservation first and hunting second, it should relate to the "world" or "International", etc. and ideally the acronym should be something pronounceable or preferably be a real word.

Conservationist and Hunters of the World - CHOW
Association of International Conservationists and Hunters - AICH

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Love the CHOW acronym.


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I think the man,e should identify that hunting begetts Conservation.

One can not have Conservation without hunting.

But I accept if the body disagrees.
 
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What would you name your international hunting conservation organization if you helped spearhead it's birth today?


International Harvester... Smiler


We could even spice that up a little and make it even more topical; John 'Deere' International Harvester.
 
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I think the name should identify that hunting begetts Conservation.

One can not have Conservation without hunting.

But I accept if the body disagrees.
 
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Hunting “ something “
No sport, harvest etc, because that’s just bullshit


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The Conscientious Consortium for Conservation.
a.k.a the CCC.


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After all, that is what it started out as....
 
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How about:

Conservationist United for Natural Things


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After all, that is what it started out as....


People should remember that as well. Just like fish and wildlife used to be fish and game. Orgs can be hijacked.


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We have a winner! jumping

My humble and no doubt losing offering would be:

The Killer Elite.


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Whatever happened to Game COIN? Looks like the organization went inactive, but I don't know the details.
 
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JMHO. The name should reflect conservation first and hunting second, it should relate to the "world" or "International", etc. and ideally the acronym should be something pronounceable or preferably be a real word.

Conservationist and Hunters of the World - CHOW
Association of International Conservationists and Hunters - AICH

Etc.


I have to respectfully disagree with "conservation first and hunting second". While it may sound good, I consider it largely disingenuous. My pulse doesn't quicken when I see a buffalo, and my heart doesn't start racing when I'm 20 yards from an elephant, because my primary focus is the conservation of all things wild. I am there and what I'm experiencing is because I love to hunt. I wish I could find the words to explain why it is such a passion, but I haven't been able to yet.

That's not to say that the conservation of wild places and the animals that inhabit those areas is not important to me. It is, always has been and always will be. But that's not the primary reason that I hunt.

"Hunters for the Hungry" is a name that has always resonated with me. It clearly conveys that Hunters are responsible for this effort. But just like Conservation, I didn't convert my property to wildlife management and I don't kill several whitetail and exotics each year to feed the hungry. I did it because I love to hunt. A benefit of this has been the conversion of the land from agricultural usage to a wildlife focus and the donation of what I consider high quality meat to those in need.

I believe that if a new name is adopted (for DSC for example), or a new alliance is created, it should be as clear as "Hunters for the Hungry" that Hunters are responsible for the Conservation benefits demonstrated and claimed, and not something that suggests the only reason we hunt is for conservation. It doesn't take too much to see through that claim ....


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I wiil press my name forward formally and officially :

International Hunting and Conservation Foundation. ICHF.


I think that is a good name. We have to take SPORT AND TROPHY out of the equation.

IHCF or ICHF is a good idea,


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Whatever name it has, it should not include the words trophy or sport.


I have said that so many times. I believe that is 100 % true. Those two names are thrown in hunters faces all the time.
 
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HUNTERS ANONYMOUS (HA)

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Damn. That is too rich and so many layered with self-deprecation and wicked irony.

I’m reminded of Katharine Hepburn’s maxim: “They can write whatever they want, as long as they spell my name right.”

It’s like the opposite of (or the same thing as?) that - with a f$&@ you thrown in.

I think we may have a new winner! animal


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International Union for Wildlife Restorancy and Conservation

United groups towards Restoring habitat and environment, like old farms etc, to areas where wildlife can again roam free, conserved through sustainable use. Been successful in Southern Africa
 
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All very well coming up with an acceptable name for our sport but what about doing something about it?

There are a number of bodies and organisations that need to be brought together under one house and one that has an audible voice.


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Fair game : I agree. I would love to see DSC, Rocky Mountain Elk, Wild Sheep, and Boone and Crocket unite under one banner. Do away with the awards and as part of their character set down a charter that defines and advances fair chase and ethical hunting. Boone and Crocket does not recognize high fence hunting.

Like,I said in an earlier post I believe an nuanced articulation can be a made to include operations like the Save. Larry Shores has made this articulation. If an outfitter wants to do business with this new association they would have to sign off on the charter. Failure to follow would result in the Outfitter (or hunter) being excommunicated and unable to receive donations or exhibit at conventions held by the association. There would need to be a mechanism for client hunters to report violations. Such as when Mark Young’s “well respected” outfitter told him he must break a Tanzania game law and shoot from the truck. Mark Young to his credit told him no.

Before anyone says it cannot be done. I suggest they look up the International Conference for the Protection of Wild Animals where hunters where part of the forming regulations that were introduced to halt the colonial slaughter. Lord Delamare was very vocal at this conference suggesting large swaths of land be set aside for game and supported through hunting.

Leaving other tracts for agriculture and settlement.

Other regulations included for adding trade in tusk less than 10pounds. A modern version of this particular reg would be not to target immature bull elephants or lions.
 
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In the early 1970's, I was working for a wholesale hunting and fishing company. Our daily discussions mainly focused on hunting and fishing as one might surmise. An article was published in one of the major US sporting mags that brought about the subject of "anti-hunting" voices. One of my co-workers asked me if I thought they would ever end hunting. My reply was; "No, we'll price ourselves out of business with with the high cost of hunting and related products, red tape and arguing over how, when and where we should be allowed to hunt." We as a broad group of men and women worldwide are doing a great job of arguing ourselves right into the hands of our enemy; an enemy who's true agenda is money, not animal welfare of conservation. Follow the money but stop arguing over how, when, where and who's right and who's wrong. Just my humble opinion. LDK


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In the early 1970's, I was working for a wholesale hunting and fishing company. Our daily discussions mainly focused on hunting and fishing as one might surmise. An article was published in one of the major US sporting mags that brought about the subject of "anti-hunting" voices. One of my co-workers asked me if I thought they would ever end hunting. My reply was; "No, we'll price ourselves out of business with with the high cost of hunting and related products, red tape and arguing over how, when and where we should be allowed to hunt." We as a broad group of men and women worldwide are doing a great job of arguing ourselves right into the hands of our enemy; an enemy who's true agenda is money, not animal welfare of conservation. Follow the money but stop arguing over how, when, where and who's right and who's wrong. Just my humble opinion. LDK


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