Good day to all members. I need some information regarding the permanent exportation of a 1871/84 Mauser ( the last black powder rifle made by Paul Mauser) A friend of mine in Idaho, Rigby gave me a 1871/84 Mauser as a gift. I an in need of permanently exporting( only once) this rifle to South Africa from the USA. Paper work on my side is covered...the info I am in need of is from the USA side. Since this is an old /antique black powder rifle will the exportation procedures be the same as with a new rifle bought in the USA??

I really would like to hear from you members in this regard.

Gert Odendaal

He can put it in a box & mail it, no export US paperwork required as anything made before Jan 1 1899 is not by law a firearm, but rather a antique.

I would suggest putting a letter in the box indicating it is not a firearm because of date of mfg. No export paperwork required.

The '68 Gun Control Act explains the definitions.

The question is will SAP's accept that it is by law not a "firearm" and no export paperwork required?

Gerty,I agree with Ken. You are legal. The only hitch is the mailers that don't even know the laws.

Ken/Norman, I agree , but I think it prudent to go through the motions and fill out all the forms required , get the rifle here and learn an lot of new procedures regarding permanent exportation of a rifle from the USA. There are still .450 nr 2 Jeffery barrels I need to permanent export to South Africa..this will be an excellent learning curve...

Gert

Trust me, permanent export is a lot harder than filling out some forms & if they see it is a antique may still refuse to issue a export license.

What I have learned is to pay someone, in my case my customs broker can also handle getting me a export license (at a cost $400-$500 per) & arranging shipping.

Here is the process
https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/l...s_Firearms012013.pdf

Please keep us updated on this situation. Any info is good + can be used by others as well as we would like to see how this works for you.

I have friends that did the the other way around.... RSA to USA and carried in person rather than shipped.. but going to RSA is a horse of a different color for sure..

I'd be very interested in how this turns out..